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[ To 2000 comments ] Newer comments are first: Last updated on: August 22, 2000 (there are 58 comments on this page, 37 on the Jan - June 1999 page, & 26 on the 1998 page) [Comments for Kyle] Name: Anonymous Wow! I am glad to find all the information I did here! I have a person in my life who means more to me than anyone could imagine. When I first started dating him, he was doing "G" in front of me a few times and I had no clue what it was...they told me to try it, it would only make me feel like I was drunk. I weigh approximately 100 lbs. and they gave me 2 capfuls. Well, needless to say, I felt really jittery for a while, then I would feel dead, then jittery, then dead. It went on like that all night and they kept telling me I would feel like a million bucks the next day, like I just worked out at the gym. I care about my ex a lot still and he needs help bad. He has already been through rehab for coke especially, but now he concentrates on "G" because according to him, it's better for you. This is the times for all the raves, the "G", the "E", but let me tell you people that it isn't safe and you won't feel like a million bucks. You "G out", you puke, you lose control of your bodies functions, peeing your own pants, drooling...etc. Between the person I love so much and all his friends, I have seen all the side effects of "G". One of his friends has to take it every day or he geeks for it and he is extremely violent when he is on it. He is so bad that I don't feel comfortable near him and he is a very good friend of ours! They all drink alcohol while they are on it too, I am prepared for one of them to go into a coma one of these nights and not snap out of it. No matter what anyone tells you about the drug, "take one cap, you'll be fine," "it's stuff body builders used to use, it's great," "Oh, we dilute it with water..." It doesn't matter, it isn't good for you no matter what they tell you.Rochester has been "rave" city lately and I have seen what it can do to families, relationships and people. Your boyfriend/girlfriend, sister/brother, son/daughter or just friend may not return that night after doing "G". Try your hardest especially to keep people you really care about away from it. It really hurts to lose someone from drugs the way I have lost him...we still hang out, but mentally, and emotionally, it's a totally different relationship because he can't kick the drugs! Name: Rob A. Kuziak At 1pm yesterday afternoon, a person I grew up with "og ed" while driving a company truck.He collided with a small car with 4 people inside.A 3 YEAR OLD WAS KILLED AND THE REST OF THE PEOPLE ARE IN THE HOSPITAL!WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!I am a recovering addict of g, and I am dealing with it on a day by day basis.It has not been easy,it has been hell.I have not touched it since Dec. 10th.The authorities in my area are ignorant about GHB.When I was rushed to the hospital, they treated it as an overdose!What a mistake.I want to be of help to people, but they just do not want to listen. Sincerely, Name: Mike Just a couple words of advice to anyone thinking about trying G. if reading the experiences on this website did not convince you that this crap is poison, just go out with some people that do G. I've never used G, but I thought about it....until I saw what it REALLY does to people. I've seen friends wet themselves, puke all over, crap in their pants, take off all their clothes and pass out, and basically look like their dead....needless to say, I don't go out with "G heads" anymore...it's not even worth the stress and bull*** to be around people who do it. if you have friends that do it, educate them on what this stuff can do to them. keep showing them hard evidence that G is a killer. don't let friends and loved ones become statistics of this drug. Name: Dale I initially started taking this stuff not for recreational purposes but rather for its reputed claim that it aids in muscle building and fat burning. This stuff is poison. It eats away at your insides and causes ulcers and major throat irritation not to mention terrible nausea that lasts well into the day. Something that has these type of terrible side effects can not be good for your body. To all you muscleheads stay away from the stuff. Also, in my case and many of my friend's cases you become psychologically addicted to it, thinking that you need to take it to get to sleep. Name: Anonymous It's nice to see a site that is helping to warn people about GHB. I recently tried it with some friends who told me it was "perfectly safe". Consequently one of my friends ended up in the hospital. There needs to be more awareness about this drug! City, Sate: Bergen County NJ I myself have never done GHB but friends of mine have. And they all thought it was the greatest thing until last week. Last weekend they went to a club on a big party bus and everyone was drinking and taking shots of GHB. So my one friend had a few beers and 3 shots of GHB. By the time they got to the club she was passed out leaning up against the window not moving. They tried to get her to move but she wouldn't. SO everyone went inside and one guy came out about half an hour later to check up on her. She was still out of it so he gave her soda hoping she would throw it all up. Yea she started throwing it up alright but since she was on GHB she started choking on her tongue because when a person is on that they don't know how to gag or anything. She started turning blue and having convulsions so this guy had to stick his finger in her mouth and move her tongue to allow her to puke. She puked and did this all over again. She puked 7 times that night and doesn't remember a thing. She almost died that night. She had side effects from that drug for a week straight. Very nasty Side effects. All I can say is that stuff is NASTY and it will mess you up beyond believe. If you think that puking is fun and spending hours,days or even months in the hospital then fine go ahead and do this drug... but I would advise you otherwise Name: Kimberly The night before Christmas, I went out to a bar with friends. I haven't really "partied" in such a long time. We went to a bar on Sunset. I had one drink (JD & Coke). I ordered another and the waitress brought it. I was about 5 sips into it when I realized I have to go to the bathroom. My girlfriends and I had been talking to a few different guys, but I don't think I left my drink unattended. As I walked to the bathroom, I started feeling really messed up. I thought "WOW!! I only had one full drink and a few sips of another, I can't be this messed up!!". As I stood in line, I started feeling really strange. I couldn't really "feel" anything. Apparently, I bumped the girl in front of me and she looked at me and asked "Are you OK?" I have no idea what I said. I made it to the bathroom... As I sat on the toilet, my head fell forward and I could NOT pick it back up. My whole body got heavy and limp. I heard the bathroom attendant knock and ask if I was OK but I couldn't respond. I heard the bouncer come into the bathroom stall and ask if I'm OK, but I couldn't respond. I threw up on him, but I was not in control. Another bouncer came in and helped him carry me. I could feel myself convulsing and vomiting, but I couldn't respond, speak or move. I heard everything going on, but I couldn't DO anything. I heard them say call 911. I heard the siren. I knew the paramedics were doing things to me, but I couldn't really feel it. I heard one of them say "GHB" and I thought "OH MY GOD!! I'VE BEEN DRUGGED??!!" When they checked my pupils, I could see them, but when the let go of my eye lids, I couldn't keep them open. I could hear the ER staff working on me. But, again, I couldn't do anything. I arrived at the hospital at 1:10 am. I woke up at 5:00am. They asked me if I took any drugs. I said NO. They asked if I've heard of GHB. I said "The date rape drug?". They said YES. I said "Why?". They said because you ingested a large amount of it. Not only am I not going out anymore. But for those of you who think it's cute, or anyone who thinks doing something like this to someone, think again!! I'm a 30 year old mother with a 5 year old little boy who needs me!! How dare anyone think about taking that away!! Name: DJ QUACK To Everyone: There is nothing I like more than going out with my friends to party. But
after Name: Anonymous My girlfriend and coworker were given alcohol unknowingly with GHB. Her coworker, having only a sip of the mixture, suffered from nausea and vomited 20 minutes later. My girlfriend had consumed the remaining contents, and became stuporous, extremely disoriented (described as feeling extremely drunk) and was unable to walk. She suspected GHB, immediately. Email: pumpman19@aol.com I was severely addicted to the "supplement" form of GHB for about 13 months. I have been clean for almost 90 days. I am very concerned about the effects this drug has had on my body. Is there a reliable source to find information regarding abuse of this drug and long term effects on the body. I did not experience the intense withdrawal symptoms described by some users. It was brutal, especially from a mental perspective, however, I did not have to be hospitalized. I was using a 32 ounce bottle of Serenity, Renewtrient, etc. every 3-4 days. It was ugly. Very addictive physically and mentally. I am fortunate to be alive. 12 Step program has been very effective for me. GHB leaves you spiritually dead. Somebody please reply on the short and long term health effects. Thanks. Name: Withheld In the beginning I was pro GHB and got upset when anybody talked badly about it. I used and made the drug for 2 years. At first it lifted my anxiety and my depression and made me feel good. I only used it at nite and after work. I began using it daily then hourly (I'm not saying that this is going to happen to you I'm saying this happened to me). I was found passed out on the wrong side of the freeway, taken to the hospital and released, but it didn't stop there. I kept using hourly. My family and friends started to get worried and talking among there selves. 6 months of this insanity/girlfriend leaving/kids not being able to wake me up and when I do wake up its 3 hours late to work - I knew I had a problem. So I had my xwife take me to ucsd to detox. I was having such bad withdrawals I pulled the iv out of my arm and ran out of the hospital and took a cab home to do more g. That's when I finally overdosed and went into a coma for 3 days and awoke in the ICU in the hospital. The doctors sent me down to county mental health for 72 hour observation. I told them I wasn't trying to kill myself, but of course they didn't believe me. I told them as soon as I get out of the hospital I was checking myself in to the Scripps mac donald center drug rehab center. I have met a lot of sober people and am 5 months clean to date and don't miss the insanity. (this is just my story take and use whatever you can out of it and leave the rest) once again I'm not saying this is going to happen to you but it did happen to me. Anybody can contact me at schwing@worldnet.att.net Name: Kenneth [kennethbossy@aol.com] First, my heart goes out to all those who have suffered from the result of
this drug. Please know, however, that your stories on this page have possibly
saved my life. Thank you. Name: Anon I have never used GHB. I was interested in all the properties the advertisers represented. I stumbled into this site, by the grace of God, and was horrified to read about this dark side. I would like to thank everyone who contributed to the information contained here. I was appalled by the enormous tragedy. It scared me because I thought I would use this product for a business trip to over come jet lag. I would have used it by myself, and from what I read, the lucky ones who survived terrible mishaps with this drug, were in the presence of caring friends. Thank you from a father of three 10, 8 and 6. I extend my condolences to all those people who suffered losses, and thank you for getting the message out. It worked for me! Name: Joe Winters I was wondering if anyone knows of any long term damage this GHB will do to my liver... Etc. I have been using it for a year and this stuff is the DEVIL! I am weaning myself off. But did not know there would be problems down the road. Please contact: qualityart@aol.com Name: Jamie Hensley A family member of mine, Tommy died December 4th while under the influence of GHB. We are not sure of the exact cause of death right now its under investigation but he was under the influence of GHB, he bought this stuff at a GNC store. Tommy was found dead in his bathroom by my cousin saturday morning, He was 30 years old. This is a tragedy to my family and I would like to post our story to help keep people of this deadly drug. As of right now we do know that he mixed this with alcohol how can we work on getting this off the market, its deadly. Name: Chris (20 y/o) Last night, a few friends and I went to a party, and then a club, with plans
of having GHB. I hadn't tried it, and wasn't really aware of the dangers
involved... I was told it was fun.. Name: Anonymous My experience with GHB has seen many pros and cons. I researched it extensively before buying kits and trying it. I'll list off the main benefits, then the many problems I had with it. First, it worked tremendously to alleviate anxiety and depression. I would take small (2g) doses every 4 hours, and it allowed me to function at a time in my life that was very difficult. I rarely took it to "get high" Now for the bad stuff. Eventually I was taking it around the clock, every 4 hours, in increasing doses, for weeks or months at a time. Though that in itself wasn't a problem. Sometimes I would just stop using it because I didn't feel the need, and there were no problems after 8 weeks of solid use. GHB is really high in sodium, and along with my poor diet, it began to affect me, mainly my skin, which became very red and blotchy. It looked horrible. One day, I made a batch from a kit in the usual fashion. I noticed that it didn't seem to have the right effect after I ingested it. I went to bed, and woke up at 5am with a terrifying, inexplicable panic attack. If you've never had a genuine panic attack (and I had not until then) then try to imagine the worst fear and agitation you could attain - and multiply it by 20. I don't know what was wrong with that batch, I dumped it immediately. They say making GHB is easier to make than Kraft Dinner, and that is complete nonsense. It is VERY easy to go wrong in the 'recipe' and end up with byproducts or residuals that can really harm you - or the recipe could be flawed. This is my personal experience. At one point, I tried a GHB alternative (butanediol). It did become GHB once ingested, and who knows what else - I ended up at the hospital with another severe panic attack, and the doctor gave me a prescription to help. I am now addicted to that prescription but have almost weaned myself off of it. Later on I bought the bulk chemicals myself to make GHB, including lye from the hardware store. Big mistake. At first, the lye seemed to work well, but then I ran out and bought more, of the same brand - and it had some contaminant in it. I actually experienced considerable pain as this contaminated GHB wore off. I was dumping batches and making more, only to have the same effect. Finally I bought lab-grade Sodium Hydroxide to solve the problem. Eventually, I was using up to 25g a day (about 12 caps) and slowly, I noticed its effects less and less. When my sodium got really high and I got all blotchy, I would eat potassium chloride (from the supermarket). It's really gross stuff and sometimes it would give me agonizing stomach pains. Finally, I admitted to myself I was out of control with my GHB consumption. And I had to stop using it because I was going on a very long road trip and could not transport it legally. When I stopped using it this time, I had noticeable withdrawal effects (anxiety, insomnia, palpitations, tingling) for about a week. Overall, GHB was usually a manageable substance with manageable effects. During this whole time, few people knew of these events, and I carried out my life and my work in a relatively normal fashion - to look at me you'd never think anything like this was going on. But the really terrible experiences I had with it tip the scales the other way, and portray it as something to be avoided at all costs. It seems the chemistry itself is the big problem; for I believe that if my use had been with 'prescription grade' GHB the whole time, I would not have suffered. My final say on the matter is that I believe GHB, if pure, is safer than alcohol if used responsibly. It is sad that people die if it is used incorrectly, but this is true of almost anything. Hundreds of thousands of deaths are attributed every year to alcohol. Forty thousand people die every year from interactions involving Tylenol, but we never hear about it in the news. While I don't agree with everything I see on these pages (ie, clinical research put the lethal dose at about 100x the normal dose), this site is making people aware of the dangers of GHB - regardless of their causes and I believe this page has saved lives. I will likely use GHB again sometime in the future, provided I can make it with acceptable purity. And to those that ask, I'll always present the pros and the cons as I have experienced them myself and they can make their own decisions on GHB. State: Ohio This morning my school was floating with rumors about what had happened to one particular girl who always craved attention. She's not a good friend of mine but we still sit at the same lunch table. The truth is she had passed out this morning by taking two or three capfuls of what is called "g" (GHB) by the people I know. She had to have her stomach pumped. I think if her friends wouldn't have told anyone she would have died. My message is this: IF YOUR FRIEND/WHOEVER PASSES OUT (b/c of GHB or *anything*) YOU MUST TELL SOMEONE! They may be upset with you for getting them in trouble at home, but you may have very well saved their life. Name: Undisclosed I Overdosed on GHB at the age of 19, in 1990. I was the kid that grew up with the older brother strung out on crack and a father on cocaine and I "would never touch drugs." That was what my Mother and Step-father were saying when I was being wheeled in to the Emergency Room at 3am after 8 shots of GHB. This "drug" doesn't seem like a drug to a lot of people because it is in a liquid form, but it is. Let me tell you. That horrible night, I was very depressed and decided I was going to get messed up. I did. I stole a bottle of GHB from a friend, which I would have never have done if I wasn't on it in the first place, and took 8 shots in the bathroom of a bar and was completely coherent for 45 minutes. When I got home with my two roommates I slammed a door on the one that weighed 83 pounds and bruised her severely. My other roommate was not much bigger got bitten and punched because I could not see (due to the drug and it's effects)after I passed out in the bushes two stories below after the incidence with roommate #1. The night was tragic...When the paramedics got there, I kicked six (6) large men off of me and probably injured them also. I was out of control and out of character. I had been doing GHB for about a month, a shot a night, to get through the daily routine I had chosen as a career. It was horrible. Don't let this happen to you, your family or your friends. I can and will ruin your life!!!!!!!!!!! Name: Undisclosed I have a very close friend that has been experiencing with GHB on a regular basis since this past January. On January 9, 1999 he took enough just experimenting to be unconscious for about five hours. Since that time, he has started to build up a tolerance to it and really has not shown to be highly affected by it until this past Saturday night. I had no idea of how much the desire to touch would be increased by this drug. I found myself practically being raped by a very dear friend in the middle of a crowded nightclub. I was so shocked a hurt by his behavior that I couldn't even ask anyone to help me. I can't begin to tell you how humiliating it is to be sitting in a room with many friends and have your underwear ripped off your body by a friend who normally is very shy and reserved about things like that. I guess that GHB can factor into acquaintance rape also on the side of making the taker more aggressive as well as the ones who are rendered unconscious. I just thought that this would be a valid point that you would want to share with your readers. Name: Undisclosed I am 19 years old and have a mother who is 37 and severely addicted to GHB. She has been taking it for a little over a year, and until this past week thought everything was ok. My mother decided to stop using it and get off of the drug without any medication, or medical supervision. She is now in a mental institution and perhaps within the next week going into rehab. It started one morning by her waking up (not taking GHB for about 6 days) still shaking and unable to leave the house or sleep. She came in my room and told me that a friend of her's wife implanted a recording device in her mouth and that the woman was playing music and talking to her through this device. This went on for several hours until she started praying like I have never seen anyone before and she then became physically violent with me and her friend, choking, hitting. I had to sit on her to make sure she wouldn't drive. Later that day she was admitted to the emergency room and it took 6 shots of adivan (an anti-agitation med) and a mild anesthetic to calm her down. This drug has ruined both of our lives, or at least made them close to
unbearable. The police and medical profession don't know a lot about it, so
treatment in many places does not seem to be an option. Whatever I can do to
help make it known that this drug is by far as bad as heroin, or cocaine or any
others I will do. We are all (doctors included) baffled by the psychosis Thank you. Name: Anna I'm 16 and I experienced first hand what a f'd up drug G is.. Email: vschall@hotbot.com I am a friend of Sarah's who lost her brother Kyle to GHB. I haven't seen her for about 8 years and we still keep in touch. I can't say how sorry I am for her and her family to loose such an amazing brother/child. Please listen to what they are saying, and Sarah, please hang in there, we are all praying for you and your family. We miss you Kyle. Name: Undisclosed It seems that the majority of posts here are American. Well, I'm British and this drug has now made a big impact on the British dance scene. I was offered it approximately three months ago, in a club, by an associate of mine. I purchased a cap and was slightly merry off it. I asked if it was safe, what it was and all I got was the basic name. I had no other information about it, no friends had ever heard of it, I assumed it was okay. I continued to try this drug, perhaps one cap at a time. I began to get a resistance to it, meaning I needed more than I first did. One day I had been drinking alcohol in a local pub and we went to a club where this drug was on sale. I wasn't aware that alcohol and GHB don't mix, no-body had told me. I then took three caps of GHB. I am shocked that I am still alive, I really am. I so very nearly lost all control, I was balancing on the edge of unconsciousness for a long time. The only thing that kept me here, was my wonderful boyfriend who never left my side. That is how I found this website because I'm now gathering as much info as I can, to pass on to my naive friends. Name: Undisclosed I was a 43 year woman with a good career at a car dealership, until July of
this year when I went to my bosses birthday party, My boss and his friend are
currently in jail for poisoning, kidnapping, and four separate sexual assault
charges. They used ghb on me. They are currently awaiting trial, in jail bail
was set at 2 million dollars. While they are in jail I am also in my own jail. I
am under going therapy, and am taking anti-depressants, I have problems with day
to day life. I can not return to work and feel unable to look for other
employment. Boss raping you does not look good on a resume. I didn't even know
of this drug nor it's effects, nor do I take drugs of any kind. Your page Name: david forrest I work in the bar business in fort wayne Indiana. just last week, we had a
highly publicized, locally, incident of 2 dancers who may have overdosed of GHB.
All the symptoms match, and the police and local print media are engaging in
their usual cover-up, to keep a lid on things from the general community. So be careful out there, ladies, especially, and watch your drinks. don't be a victim of date rape, or rape. Name: Sharon I cannot begin to express the pain and sorrow that we are all feeling because of the tragic loss of a loving human being, our wonderful friend Kyle Hagmann, due to this hideous drug, "GHB". With a future filled with high potential, enormous promise, and endless possibilities, Kyle was taken from all of us last April after having ingested this fatal 'Sleep-aid". I have known Kyle's family for over 10 years, which gave me the opportunity to see Kyle & his sister Sarah grow from giggly little munchkins to beautiful, young adults. Kyle was a kind, well-respected, gifted athlete, and academic achiever. But most of all, he was a wonderful friend to my own three kids. My oldest daughter, Shannon, looked up to him as sort of a "big brother", being equally impressed with his presence around their high school campus, she as a Freshman & Kyle, the "Big" Senior h as she was when always greeted her at their front door with his quick-wit to make her laugh with his sister, Sarah. My younger daughter, Meghan, plays basketball & has shin-splint problems. Kyle, being the "Athletic-Trainer Extrordinaire", advised Meghan on several occasions as to what type of treatment would ease her discomfort. With basketball season opening this week, Meghan is deeply saddened knowing that "Her Personal Trainer" won't be in the gym this season. I have tried to assure her though that Kyle will still be watching over her. My son, Phil, was always extremely impressed with Kyle and placed him on the highest of all "pedestals" as there was, in Phil's eyes, nothing that Kyle couldn't accomplish. In fact, Kyle's Mom, Elise, and I will always remember when Phil was about 4 and Kyle was about 12 and Phil was so intrigued with how tall and "mature" Kyle was at that "older age"! Phil made the statement,"....I'll bet Kyle can walk on water if he tried.". Someday, when they meet again, maybe Kyle can impress Phil....once again. The tragic loss of our dear friend Kyle has not only deeply affected his
family and close friends, but it has also affected our entire (small) community
because Kyle was one of the few "Shining Star's" among our community's
youth. How this awful "GHB" could find its way into the hands of Kyle
and other young people is a very sad statement of the our society's acceptance
of manufacturers of these types of "environmental enhancers", having
the ability to sell these drugs to the public without proper testing or
restrictions and relatively no warning of possible (and tragic) side effects in
the labeling and advertising of these so-called "healthy" drugs.
Recently, after speaking with Kyle's Mom, and learning of this website, the GHB
Bill, and of the endless hours she and many others are giving to educating the
public of this horrific drug, I also feel, that for the sake of Kyle's memory
and for all of the young people I come into contact with on a daily basis, it
will be one of my personal priorities to make sure that this website stays
financially "afloat" and that the message of this website gets out to
everyone possible. We are all empowered by the Grace of God to be able to send
this message on.....we must not let another person lose their life to this drug. Name: Scott McLain I am a 2nd year Internal Medicine resident at SIU School of Medicine in Springfield, IL. This month I am doing a rotation in one of our affiliated hospital's ICUs. We had a 24 year old male who reportedly consumed a large quantity of GHB admitted to the ICU. He was intubated (endotracheal tube inserted down his throat) and placed on the mechanical ventilator because his breathing was irregular with periods of apnea (not breathing). Blood levels for GHB were drawn but this test cannot be processed at our hospital and must be sent out to a reference lab. At this writing these levels are still pending. Fortunately for this young man he survived. We got him off the ventilator and transferred out of ICU. Other than requiring intubation for a period of time and some brief bradycardia (slow heart rate), he made it. What would have happened if he had consumed more of GHB? What would have happened if he had taken GHB with other CNS depressants (ethanol, "downers," etc.)? What would have happened if EMS hadn't gotten to him in time to be intubated and adequately cared for? The clincher: Our nurse manager for the ICU found numerous web sites for GHB, including sites on how to make the stuff at home and kits to get by mail-order to make the stuff. Given the serious effects (including seizures, coma, ... death) of this "recreational" drug, I'm appalled to find out how easy people (anyone, including children, who have access to the internet) can obtain information about this potentially deadly drug that by no means should be played around with. Parents, physicians, nurses, EMTs be forewarned about the dangerous substances available on the streets and how easy they can be obtained. Name: Undisclosed I am sorry to here about your loss. Lately here this has become all to common. I stopped using GHB one month ago. Prior to that I used it for about 2 years. Someone first introduced it to me when I was at a party. I was introduced to it by a friend who said it was an all natural substance that made you feel like you were drunk with no hangover. From that day on, I gradually increased the amount I did over the course of 2 years(20 caps a day). Many times I wake up on the floor or nodding off at work. My hands would shake until I got another cap in me. I am have been fortunate to escape any real tragedy myself, but 4 friends of mine have wound up in the hospital nearly dead and one friend is dead. When I found out I could make it myself, it became even more absurd. I had a gallon on hand so that I always new that I had it. My girlfriend became addicted to it as well. Life not on GHB was totally depressing for me. I would wake up a do it first thing. Then I would do it thru the day at work and when I got home until I passed out. It was disgusting but I could not stop. After a 3rd friend was hospitalized for overdosing I decided to pour out my stash(which I had done many times before). But this time I had learned that all the garbage you read on the internet is just a bunch of hype to sell more product. I stopped for 2 months. The first week was hard. Bad shakes, severe depression, and sleepless nights. Shortly after I was suckered into the various ghb alternatives(Renewtrient, zen, ghgold the worst!). I thought that since this wasn't straight ghb that it would be better for me. These actually turned out to be worse. It's all the same garbage. It seriously messes with your head, clouds your judgement,destroys relationships, and can kill you. This last time , my withdrawals lasted a week long, but they were very violent. I just pray that this hasn't hurt me for life. If you are using the 23hfurnone concentrate, drop some on the cover of a magazine and see how it eats the ink right off the page. IT is LIKE CLEANING SOLUTION! If you have started , save your life and stop. It is a nightmare waiting to happen. Name: Guy at a club So I am a 21 year old guy who lives in orlando, which is one of the larger areas for raves and the associated drugs. I have taken GHB and other kinds of things many times, and I am not going to lie to you; G does make you feel good, real good, so good that it makes you think there is not a thing that you cannot do. I mean, it gives you energy, makes you sociable, and also provides an underlying feeling of positivity about everything; this is the truth. This is also the reason why it is such a popular drug in the "rave" scene. Yet all these effects that I have mentioned are only showing one side of this elusive drug, for there is also a very dark, dangerous side to GHB. But you're not thinking about that while this DJ is playing, or when you are talking with this girl. All you are feeling is good. But it only takes one second for this whole world of perfection to collapse all down on you... leaving you in a vegetative state, unresponsive to any stimuli whatsoever. From that point on you gain a whole new opinion about this drug. You think "how could I have taken too much? I was feeling great then all of a sudden I am in a hospital bed with my family and friends all around?" This is what happens. Luckily I got the chance to wake up. And I am telling all of those who still think they have everything under control: this drug cannot be controlled. We had everything figured out. We knew how much we were taking. We knew how long it had been since we had last taken it. We knew everything about the other drugs that were in our system at the time. But it turns out that the only thing we really DID know was that I almost died. now I am not going to preach at you and tell you to ban everything, but you must stop this drug. Learn more about it, find out what it really does to your body, why you feel the way you do, and I trust that you will make the right choice. peace. Name: Samantha First off I just want to let all of those people who have lost someone to this horrible drug know that I am sorry for your loss. I was first introduced to this drug by my fiance, he told me it was a natural substance that was found naturally in the human brain and was sold in stores he called it "G" . I asked what it stood for and he said good or something. I asked him if it was dangerous and he said no its like drinking four beers all at once. I agreed to try a capful and at first I felt real light headed and fun, that lasted for about 10 minutes, then I started feeling sick, I went in to my fiance's room to lay down and I blacked out when I came to I remember him leaning over me asking if I was alright I tried to respond but I couldn't, the next thing I remember is profuse vomiting on his bed, in the hallway, in the bathroom, and all over myself. My fiance (who was at that time only my boyfriend) put me in the bathtub and started running the water, I couldn't control my body and I was struggling to hold my face out of the water, my fiance quickly jumped in the tub to hold me up. He got me cleaned off and cleaned the bed and put me in it. I hardly remember any of that and none of this next stuff he later told me about it, He thought I was done so he finished cleaning up and came to lay down with me, when he got on the bed he realized it was shaking he turned on the light to see me having a full blown seizure. He grabbed me and started yelling at me trying to get me to snap out of it, but got no response, after about fifteen minutes of convulsing my body went limp and my breathing was sporadic he stayed up for twelve hours watching me sleep until I woke up. Luckily I did wake up. I will never try that again and he no longer does it either, a lot of his friends still do and I just hope that this site keeps those of you who are thinking about it, from trying it. Just remember its not worth the trouble. Name: Ellen Donato I am in the process of working with a neurologist from the University of Penn who was my best friends doctor. She was in the hospital for 5 weeks with seizures and then passed away. The day after she died I received a telephone call saying that she had been taking large amounts of GHB. The girl who made this phone call died 2 weeks ago from GHB. The neurologist is now comparing these cases to see if there was a connection in these deaths. The doctor would like to start a case study about GHB, there is not enough known about this dangerous drug. I am trying to find people(anonymously) and see what their side effects were, how much they took, how long they took it etc. If there is anyone who can help or has any information please E-mail thomas.donato@aol.com Name: Peter Tosi I recently lost my brother in law to GHB. He was convinced GHB was a smart drug and was obtaining it through the internet. After my wife told me the condition he was in (stumbling around, falling over, acting drunk and vague) I researched the drug he was taking and found your site. I told my wife he was exhibiting symptoms of being near overdose. My wife pleaded with him to stop taking the drug. He continued to take it while denying it was a problem. When he went back to his home town (Melbourne, Australia) he was found wondering the street in a daze and admitted to hospital by the police. They dried him out and released him, this happened a few times. His friends joined us in trying to get him to stop taking this killer drug. In response to this he broke off contact with us and moved to a new address. Apparently he overdosed on Friday, he was found dead by worried housemates, he had not left his room that day. He was 33 (same age as me). There are many pseudo-medical magazines that promote these drugs using out of date research from the 1920s and 30s. Obviously there is money to be made and these people think life is cheap. All we who are left behind can do is ask why, but no-one can give us an answer. Name: Kathy Proffitt If you have ever loved someone in your life and know that they are using GHB, I beg you to print up this information and make them read it. My boyfriend, who has been mentioned on this site before by his parents, died in his sleep from this drug. I have know people that have been using this drug for years and the only side effect they have had is urinating themselves at night because they could not wake up to go to the restroom. Kyle, my boyfriend had only taken GHB a few times and never never woke up. I had a gut feeling that there was something wrong with this "safe sleep aide," I just wish I knew exactly what it was. The website Kyle showed me said nothing but good stuff about this drug. The one thing that sticks in my mind now is Kyle reading me "There are NO known DEATHS from GHB." I only hope that when people look up this deadly drug that this is the first site they come to. People seem to believe everything they read on the internet. Just because it is on the internet does not mean it is true. So please if any one you know is taking this deadly drug, please let them know that this drug does kill. Name: Anonymous My brother went out one night and took this crap they call "fun". He came home and luckily I was there. I found him lying on the bed shaking. He wasn't responsive. He got up and went puke and lied on the floor (like he was sleeping) I was the only one home. I had no clue as to what to do for the one person that I look up to and love very deeply. I called the ambulance and when they came they said he had no pulse and his bp was low. They had to take him to the ER. Luckily he made it; I'm just here to tell anyone who is thinking about taking it, or already has, not to do it. My experience was the scariest thing that I had ever gone through and if you care about your family or friends you wouldn't do it. If I wouldn't have been there my brother, my own flesh and blood would have died all because of me and if I hadn't done anything he would have died in my arms. That's something no one can live with. Since this fist incident he has been to the hospital two more times in less than two months because of drugs. Name: SAMANTHA'S MOM Judi Clark Comments: On Jan. 17, 1999 ,against my permission, my life changed forever, because of GHB. On that day, my only daughter, Samantha Reid, my most precious gift, was taken from me by this sinister drug. GHB and/or GBL was slipped into "Sammie's" Mountain Dew soft drink. Sammie was 15 days into her 15th birth- day when she died. I am unable to discuss the case because it is pending in Circuit Court. The trial is set for Jan.10,2000. Four men have been charged with two counts of poisoning and one count of man-slaughter. I took six months off of work and began educating myself on a drug I knew nothing about. BE AFRAID, BE VERY AFRAID IS AN UNDERSTATEMENT!!! This drug is a sinister, invisible predator and there are now three invisible predators in our nation. GHB, GBL, and BD. MEN, don't think for a minute you are immune from these predator drugs. Since my daughter's death men have approached me and shared stories where they believe they were given"something". In the Detroit Metro area malicious accounts against males outrank assaults on females at Poison Control. PARENTS, if you teens or pre-teens tell you they are going to an alcohol free party please consider that they may be attending a RAVE,most do not allow alcohol. WHY??? Because the dealers of G(GHB), K (Ketamine) and E(Ecstasy) want your children buying and using drugs not alcohol. Look for Vick's inhalants,and glow sticks as well as pacifiers(used to control grinding of teeth). These are clues that your teens and pre-teens may be experimenting with some very dangerous drugs that they may never come back from. Children as young as 10 are attending RAVES. LEARN ALL YOU CAN TO PROTECT YOURSELF AND EVERYONE YOU LOVE GHB KILLS! GHB KILLS! GHB KILLS! GHB KILLS! GHB KILLS! GHB KILLS! Name: Withheld My experience occurred at a wednesday night football game. I am a certified athletic trainer working with a large high school in south florida. With about five minutes left in the first half of the game I was called to look at a student that was down. I ran over to the crowd of people expecting to find a student that had fallen down or had been injured. At first glance I saw a fifteen year old white male lying on his back with vomit covering his face. I thought at first I had a student that drank a little too much but I was a little off. My initial evaluation presented the student with fixed and pupils which were unresponsive to light, no response to verbal or painful stimuli i.e. sternal rub. Pulmonary function was depressed and breathing was almost non- existent. After activation of EMS, vitals were monitored and information on this GHB substance was brought to me. On two occasions this student stopped breathing but regained shallow respirations. This incident occurred about three hours ago so further information will be given to me later. I just wanted to find out a little about this drug. I just want to say that your site was very informative and will help me in my presentation to school officials and students on this matter. Thanks for everything J... Name: K. N. I am still in a state of shock. I was in a place I felt safe with friends. We ordered a drink at the bar as we had done there several times before. I do not remember even holding the drink in my hand. Thankfully my sister was there with me and put me in a cab and sent me to the hotel. She just thought I was drunk and obnoxious. I feel so violated. I don't know who put GHB in my drink. I'm a 40 year old woman. On a business trip in a respectable restaurant. Never thought someone would do this to me. I was also drinking with dinner. But not to excess. My sister luckily thought she should return to the hotel and check on me. She found me passed out on the floor with two nasty bruises and gashes on my face. She thought someone had hit me. I was incoherent,had hit the floor or something hard. I only remember two phrases of the evening. Ordering the drink. Feeling sad. Crying in the cab and the driver asking if I was alright. I said yes. I don't know how I made it to my room. She was up all night checking on my breathing. I had the symptoms you described without the vomiting. And thank God I'm alive. Thought this only happened to young girls. I am in total shock. I plan to warn all people I know. And have talked to several people that have had same experiences. Do crazy people get off jeopardizing other peoples lives? Name: Tony and Elise Hagmann On April 24, 1999 we lost our son, Kyle Hagmann, due to an accidental overdose of GHB. He was introduced to GHB as a safe substance that aids in muscle development and also as a safe sleep-aid. He was a 20-year old student away at a private Christian College and ingested GHB one night before he went to bed thinking it was a safe sleep-aid. He died later in his sleep and was found dead in his dorm room the next morning. Kyle looked up GHB on the Internet and found nothing but safe and positive information regarding its use. Had he found any negative information about GHB, we know he would never have considered its use. Kyle was an honor student with high aspirations and goals. He was attending the University in Ventura County on an academic scholarship and was just awarded an additional departmental scholarship for his high academic standards. He held a 3.9 GPA in his major, Athletic Training and Sports Medicine. We appreciate the accurate information you are providing on your website regarding GHB. We only wish that Kyle had found this site instead of those promoting GHB. If he had, we know he would still be alive today. We learned that Kyle had never heard of GHB until only a few weeks prior to his death. Apparently a fellow classmate introduced him and other students to GHB as a safe supplement, which supposedly aids in muscle development and is used as a sleep aid, not as the potentially deadly drug that it is. We feel that it is our obligation as parents to expose GHB for what it is, something deadly. If Kyle must be the example, take the warning to heart. GHB and drugs similar to it must be avoided and the word must be spread so that this awful tragedy is not repeated. Kyle was a quality young man with a promising and bright future and if this tragedy happened to him, it could happen to anyone. Our loving memories of Kyle live on in our hearts every minute of every day. We miss him so much but know he is safe in God’s hands until we are all together again. Tony and Elise Hagmann Name: Anonymous Here is a little trick that may not have been right of me to do, but something I thought would work and did work. If someone you care about has a G problem and doesn't realize it, or is one of those people that has G'd out and believe nothing you say about their convulsing or foaming at the mouth etc... If you have a camcorder put it to use. When they G out [overdose on GHB] again start rollin. Obviously ensure their safety first but when they get up, if they get up. They will have an unbelievable experience when they get to see exactly what happens to them. My buddy had watched a friend die on G, and has seen plenty of G out, but says it has never once happened to him...not true I've watched it 3 times now and the last one was recorded. Well he finally watched the tape with me today and he started bawling like a lil baby. He was so shocked like he truly didn't have a clue what happened to him and still thinks that's the first time it happened. Well he is thru with it---he really is. But [darn], why does it take such effort to make these people see what they are doing? Name: Anonymous Thank you for the informative and well researched page! I work in a rave nightclub, and we have had to call the paramedics several times because people have collapsed and stopped breathing, presumably after ingesting GHB. I decided to search the internet for information about GHB, and was appalled to find that the pages I found were mostly pro-GHB and contained a lot of biased and inaccurate information that would lead one to believe that the substance is safe if used responsibly. I was glad to have my questions answered so thoroughly and in such an informed manner. I commend you for making this information available to people over the internet. I hope that reading your page and the comments from people who have had personal experience with GHB will deter unsuspecting party kids from ever trying it and ending up in the hospital (or dead.) My condolences on your loss. You have turned your personal tragedy into a powerful mission of providing information and you are to be commended. Name: Withheld. I came to this page looking for information for a high school Health report. Other sites had information, but this site really put me into reality about this drug and its effects. Thank you for this great site, you have really helped me. Name: Jay Okay here the F@%&!ing truth about all this garbage! I started using GHB about two years ago..! Since then I have used Renewtrient and other replacements like it. If someone tells you that GHB or Any compound like it is not addictive BULL@#$! I started using the product for sleep. I am a "muscle head" and bought into the whole "growth Hormone release" crap that they market this product under. I work and manage 3 Health food Stores, so about a year ago I started taking Renewtrient. This was great wow cheap "high" Well Boys and girl its a year later and I was up to using it about 9 times a day! I am writing this for kind of a testimony. I wish I never had seen the stuff!! It almost ruined my marriage and almost killed a half dozen of my friends! I have stopped taking any product at all. It has been about two weeks now. And believe me there is withdraw from ghb or Renewtrient. If you would have asked me six months ago about this product I would have
told you how great it is and all that sh@#! Now I cannot think of one good thing
that came of it at all!! Name: Anonymous Well, let me begin by telling you how sorry I am for everyone who has lost My sincere sympathy's to all. In regards to my boyfriend, I have read some of
this Name: NO MATTER I consider myself a responsible, recreational drug user and have enjoyed many experiences with all kinds of drugs. Nothing could have prepared me for G. Whoever got the bright idea that G is fun and safe was an idiot. I've done different drugs and from time to time and overindulged and suffered the ill effects from doing so (example:to much beer makes you puke)I am no wuss, my fave is k. G is different from all drugs. Never did I see a drug that is so easy to OD on, you never know how much to take or the strength of your dose. 2 caps was enough to lay me out for 3 hours. During that time I have no memory at all. When I began to awaken I did not even know where or who I was. I was surrounded by people trying to help me. Apparently, my friends found me on the bathroom floor,puking on myself, jerking violently, turning blue, and looking like I was asleep. Minutes later I quit breathing. Had my friends not found me I would have died. When I did wake up, let me tell you, to say I was sick is not enough. I never felt so bad or hurled so hard in my life. 8 hours of serious toilet bowl hugging.I know what you thinking, I just didn't know how to do it right, that is what I used to say about all those others.I thought I knew how to dose it right, but all it took was one mistake, one night to make me see G is too dangerous, no matter how smart you think you are. I wish the 5 friends of mine that died this year alone from G had gotten a second chance. I still have a lot of friends who do it, I know more will die. I still throw down but not with G. I BEG ALL WHO WILL LISTEN, DO NOT DO G, PLEASE!!!!! Name: Roger Voigt MY 26 year old daughter died from this drug G.H.B. The investigation shows she did not take this drug herself.The person {man} she was with has denied any knowledge. My daughter and this man sat at a small hotel bar table by themselves for about an hour.He stated him or her did not take any kind of drug.After an hour or so my daughter informed this man she wasn't feeling well and they proceeded to their separate rooms.Her roommate heard her come in and get ready for bed and go into the bathroom.She found my daughter in the morning dead on the bathroom floor.My daughters name is Kerri Breton and she was only 26 years old. We are from Niagara Falls N.Y. Kerri was in Syracuse N.Y.on business.The man that was with her was an associate of Kerri's that also attended this business seminar.This man is not an official suspect.Kerri left behind her 10 year old daughter Karissa that I am now raising. I will continue my quest for justice against this man forever for my granddaughter. Roger Voigt
Name: just another jane doe college girl First, I extend my sympathies to you family for your loss. I think this page is great. I believe that GHB use is very common on this campus, in fact just the other weekend, 4 girls were raped after being drugged with GHB! I decided that I would look into it, since I knew nothing about it. I found this page very informative, presenting the information as it is. I stumbled onto a number of pro-GHB sites and I was disgusted, appalled, shocked, etc at how available and easy it is to make/buy. I can't believe that people actually take this stuff for fun. I read the pro-GHB opinion of all those who lost loved ones or were victimized and they all seemed to give off the message of "Well gee that's too bad that this happened, BUT you shouldn't have done this or you should have been more responsible. We're the "good" GHB users. So we can't let little things like overdoses or rapes affect our fun." It struck me as downright SELFISH. How can people go on supporting "responsible" use when there is so much evidence that it's risks outweigh the benefits. It really makes me sad. We can't control people's behavior and if people want to use it, they'll keep on using it. I commend you for showing the other side of it, educating people. Name: Jennifer Comments: I believe a friend and I were drugged with GHB at a club in Flagstaff. I do not drink, I had soda. My friend and I went to the dance floor, came back to our booth and finished our 'drinks'. I got up to get another soda, it tasted funny and I could not finish it. We then walked with other friends to their house. We then began to feel weird. Dizziness, I tried to call a taxi to come and get us, but I could not hold on to the phone. Thankfully we are both ok. The lesson here is to never leave your drink unattended!!! Username: Sandra Pittman I am sorry for your loss and am trying to deal with the loss of my nephew to blue nitro on September 2, l999. Right now it is still so unreal and painful it is difficult to talk to people about. My friends don't understand because they have never heard of this drug. Of course until I received that terrible phone call neither had I. The only thing I do know is our family has lost a precious person. He was a good man, a loving man, a father, son, brother, grand-son, nephew, and friend. He will be missed and I hope if one person reads this and decides not to take this awful substance he will not have died in vain! Bless you for trying to get the message out about this dangerous drug! Name: Ashley First of all my sincere condolences in the loss of your son. Unfortunately, sometimes it takes a tragedy to prevent a tragedy which I am certain your informative website has succeeded in doing. Best of luck and good wishes to you. This past Saturday I was an unwilling victim of GHB poisoning... I know many people and now realize that I may have developed a false sense of security. On this night I fortunately was in the company of many good friends, drinking, dancing and socializing. There were no drugs involved and the night was a festive one. After a short time into the night there was a man who I had noticed intently watching me. After awhile he came over and introduced himself and began small talk. I walked away to talk to friends and foolishly left my drink on the bar next to him. I returned and resumed talking to him and drinking my drink. That was about the last I remember. Several girlfriends told me they were going to a straight bar to get another friend. Although I don't recall that I told them I wanted to go with them, it was unusual for me to go to a straight bar... According to them I was acting happy and a little drunk when we went to the car. I have no recollection of that. I could have just as easily went with whoever placed the GHB in my drink. Apparently we all went to the other bar, found it closed and returned to where we had been. At that point I was staggering and went to the girls room. There I went down and began vomiting to a point where I was vomiting blood, they tell me my breathing was deep and labored. Looking back, at that point, I could have easily been with who laced my drink and in the process of being raped or killed. Luckily, my friends found me and for the next two hours they struggled to keep me conscious and to keep me from aspirating vomit. It didn't take long for them to realize that my condition was not at all related to drinking too much, that I had been drugged. After about an hour and a half, they carried me to a car and took me to the hospital. While the nurse asked me questions I was really incoherent, I found it extremely difficult to talk and answer the questions. I knew what I wanted to say but I could only whisper one word answers after an unusually longtime to get the word out. Had I tried to yell or scream while being attacked or assaulted it would have been a futile effort. After an hour or so at the hospital, I began to come out of it and left without any treatment or testing. What was amazing is after three to four hours of pure hell that I don't remember, is how fast I became conscious and aware that I had been drugged. It was through the research I did today and finding your web site that the symptoms associated with GHB match those symptoms I experienced. The point is it doesn't matter if your a man, woman, gay straight or whatever. The people who lace drinks to unsuspecting persons with GHB, Rohypnol or their derivatives are nothing less than dangerous, predatory animals who are $#@! bent on destroying you in one way or another. When your out having fun, socializing and maybe having a few drinks, don't be afraid to be very afraid. Take all the precautions you possibly can. Received: 20 Sep 1999 Comments: I took GHB for the first time last night, prior to last night I had never even heard of it. My friend, who sells it told me that there are no side effects and that it was a vitamin. I found out that he was wrong the hard way. I took about seven capfuls during the course of the night and felt great until the end where I started throwing up. It plays with your whole digestive system,I've felt like I've had to take a dump for a whole day. I got a bad head ache and last night I went into slight convulsions while trying to fall asleep. Although it felt great while I was buzzing The aftermath is way too much to handle and I will never do this again. Received 9/14/99 I've successfully used a GHB precursor (1,4 tetramethylene glycol) as a no hangover sleeping agent in the past. Recently, I experienced a bad romantic situation which led me into a bad clinical depression. I noticed that, contrary to the stated anecdotes, GHB was very much a bad thing to be mixing with my depression. I would take it, and begin to cry. I would wake up in the middle of the night crying and feeling dreadful. I was uncertain at first about the connection between 1,4 TMG and my bad episodes, so I experimented with nights with and without 1,4 TMG to help me sleep. After a while it became quite clear that the 1,4 TMG was making my depressed brain chemistry WORSE. I have since switched to a commercial sleeping pill. While commercial sleeping pills aren't that great and often leave me hung over, 1,4 TMG is definitely something you do not want to combine with bad grief or clinical depression. Depression involves aberrant levels of serotonin, dopamine, and norepinephrine. GHB and the analogs affect levels of the first two. It's my suspicion that when you have insufficient levels of serotonin and dopamine in your system (as can be the case in clinical depression) that the sudden adjustments and the bounce back caused by GHB and the analogs is very unhealthy. I strongly discourage anyone from attempting to use GHB or an analog as any kind of therapy for depression, if my personal experiences are any indicator. Received 8/30/99 I am only 17 years old and three of my friends have almost died because of this powerful drug. They were given a drink that they believed to have vitamin supplements, so of course they did not see any harm in drinking. However, a short time after two of the girls were passed out and began having seizures. One of the girls, who is only 16, went into a coma after her heart stopped for a minute and a half. The three of them were rushed to the hospital where they had their stomachs pumped and were told that they had been given the new date rape drug GHB or liquid ecstasy. Fortunately, all three of the girls are fine now, but this drug should be taken out of health food stores which is where they were given the drugged drink. Received 8/27/99 On September 23, 1998, my brother almost died from a GHB overdose. I had know that he was doing GHB for a while and had begged him over and over to stop. He assured me that he "had it under control". Ha! As if anyone can control any drug! To make an extremely, long, painful and hideous story short, he ended up in the ER of our local hospital. He passed out, went into a very deep sleep and then stopped breathing altogether. Now, my brother is a very big guy, a body builder, and it was almost physically impossible for my husband and I to roll him off the couch and bang on his chest to get him to start breathing again. I was screaming and sobbing at the same time. After he did this a second time, I called 911 and the paramedics came. The paramedics had never heard of GHB and weren't exactly sure of how to treat it. He was rushed to the hospital and immediately put on life support. He was given a CAT scan to check for brain activity. His doctor spoke to me about his condition and the three words I remember are: possible stroke, aneurysm, coma. I called my parents in another state and told them to come right away. The doctor could not tell me whether he would live or die. My mother packed a dress for the funeral of her only son. Six hours after being admitted, he finally woke up. He was extremely volatile and kept trying to remove all the tubes, etc. they had in him. The admitted him to ICU and I went home to rest. Shortly after I got home, he showed up on my doorstep in his hospital gown, (he was naked when they brought him in) and he had checked himself out. My parents arrived at midnight that night and we had a family meeting the next day, He swore to my parents that he would "never even drink a beer again". Two days later, he called me whacked out of his mind again!!! He continues to use GHB and is aware of how much his family is afraid for him, but he just doesn't care. You would think that almost dying would make you have a different attitude. He is my little brother and I don't want to lose him, but nothing we say or do will persuade him to stop. He is 30 years old, has a Master's degree and 2 beautiful children. All of you people that think this stuff is safe, cool, fun, think again. This [stuff] kills, destroys the people who use it and the people who love them. This could easily be your story. Please, think twice. Received 8/27/99 - "Thank God They Didn't Let Me Sleep!" Two weekends ago, I went to visit my friend. She had been dating this professional baseball player and had told me that she along with the rest of the baseball team had been taking this liquid called GHG. I told her that I had heard of GHB and that it was very dangerous. She assured me that this was different and that it was better than drinking alcohol. We did a little on a Friday night and it was fun, it made you feel very happy and talkative. The next night (Saturday) we went to the new club that was really nice. We started taking capfuls of the salty stuff, she called GHG. The better we felt the more I wanted to take. The 3rd capful is the last I remember taking. I started feeling very sick and ran to the bathroom. I began throwing up continuously and I started sweating profusely. I have straight hair and I remember how curly my hair was because it was soaking wet. Thank God my ex-boyfriend had followed me to the bathroom and was wondering what was wrong with me. He helped me as I was getting sick and eventually was trying to get me up out of the bathroom floor, when he could not get a response out of me. He went and got the owner of the club and told him that I was very sick in the restroom. When they came back to the restroom the owner told my ex-boyfriend (who had no idea that I had taken this drug) that I was dying. My lips and my fingernails were turning blue at this point. They brought the fire marshall to me and the next thing I remember is this flashlight shining in my eyes, asking what I took. It took all of the energy I had to tell them. They took my pulse and said it was very weak and fading. They immediately raised me up and started making me walk with them and talk to them. After that the next thing I remember is being in the ambulance and them taking blood and starting the I.V. The only thought going through my mind at this point was that I did not want to die. I also thought about how I was letting down the one's who loved me and that I was only 28 years old and my whole life lay ahead of me. This drug or any other is not worth my future. I blame myself completely and I have luckily survived to learn a valuable lesson. I am typing this e-mail in hopes that it will at least keep one person from experimenting with this drug. The knowledge I have acquired after this incidence has been staggering. I have learned that a lot of people have died after taking this drug. When you go to sleep you often don't wake up, because your body forgets to breath. THANK GOD, THEY DIDN'T LET ME SLEEP. Received 8/19/99 I am very glad to have come across your site. I am sorry for the death of your son. I recently lost my brother to GHB as well. We had been drinking most of the night, feeling good and not wishing to go home, attended an after-party. Upon arrival, I got a strange feeling for it was not a typical party that I was accustomed to. First of all, there weren't any alcohol present, yet everyone was acting "drunk". We both were naive to GHB, so drinking gatorade and eating pop-rocks seemed a bit strange to us. I presumed that the gatorade had some form of liquor mixed with it, and when offered took a small sip. What I tasted was not a mixed drink but simply tasted like salty gatorade. As my feelings of uneasiness increased, I desperately wanted to get out of there. Our ride had bailed shortly after arriving. I managed to catch a ride to the nearest gas station with a group leaving the party. Having barely enough room for one more, I then entrusted my brother's care to a friend and instructed that I would return shortly with a ride. It would prove to be the last time I saw my brother Barry alive. I called my father and he picked me up and we went back to get my brother. I went into the house and saw my friend. He had a look of worry and my first thoughts were that my brother was involved in a fight or something to that effect. He pointed to the hallway, and I quickly forced my way into the back room. My brother was lying sideways on the floor with just his boxers on. I yelled out "What the hell is he doing with his clothes off!", and the reply was that he was sweating profusely, so it was an attempt to cool him off. I thought that he was extremely drunk and tapped him on his shoulder, informing him that father was waiting for us in the car. He didn't answer, so I grabbed his shoulder to roll him on his back. I was not prepared for what I was about to see. A sight that will haunt me forever- My brother's face and lips were purple, he had the expression of a dead person. I immediately pressed my ear to his chest, and did not hear a heartbeat. I cried out "call 911!!", and attempted to carry him outside. Being intoxicated, a guy nearby had to help me carry him. Outside we performed CPR on him until the ambulance arrived. Although we managed to get a faint heartbeat, he had lost it on the way to the hospital. Barry was pronounced dead early that Sunday morning. My brother Barry was your typical college student, susceptible to peer pressure. From what we could ascertain, he had taken two capfuls of GHB while I was gone to fetch a ride (which was only a matter of 30-45 minutes). Barry is about 5'10", approximately 140 lbs. He was a very smart individual but trusted people entirely too much. I believe that Barry had thought the caps he was given contained some form of alcohol, as a shooter. I also believe with all my heart that if he had any idea whatsoever of the content within those caps, that he would not have taken them. My point is that it only takes one simply mistake. One bad judgement. I urge all of you to please, take this drug seriously. I am very grateful for the information this site provides, for if it only saves just one person- maybe someone else's brother, sister, son, daughter- then it would have been well worth it... To my brother, my inspiration in Life, and even so in Death- I Love you Barry. -Tim Name: Withheld Thanks for creating a site for those who are against the use of GHB and other related drugs. Many people are unaware of how dangerous this drug really is. My sister was a beautiful, happy college student who had just started living her life and had so much to look forward to until the night of October 18, 1996, when she slipped into a coma as a result of an overdose on GHB at a party. The sad thing about it all is that NO ONE would help her. If she had of reached the hospital just MINUTES earlier she would have had a chance. She is now in a nursing home, my mother goes twice a day to care for her, and nothing will ever stop the tremendous pain that our whole family suffers every day. Please, if you have taken GHB or are considering it, think about the pain you might cause for your friends and family before doing so.
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