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June

Name: Carolynn
City, State: Colorado
Date: June 16, 2000
Comments:

I agree that GHB is very dangerous. I was addicted myself and have had a few very scary situations happen. The last time I took it I stopped breathing and I thank God I am alive right now. I am also thankful that I "passed out" in a public place because none of my friends or even my husband would have called 911 because they all thought that you had to sleep it off. What a scary drug. Even now I crave it but then I think about waking up in the hospital with a breathing tube down my throat and I think again. ----------------------------------------------------------

Name: kim
City, State: Foxlake IL
Date: June 16, 2000
Comments:

I myself was addicted to ghb 1 year ago I have since went to a drug rehab when I turned to alcohol to help withdrawals. GHB is the worst drug around I've had friends die watched families fall apart and almost lost my own. I got help and survived. ----------------------------------------------------------

Name: Michael Torres
City, State: Flemington, NJ
Date: June 16, 2000
Comments:

Well my story is a little different. I first got introduced to ghb in the summer of 99. At first all my aunt and her boyfriend told me was in was used to get in shape and for weight lifting, but as the days went by all i saw them do was drink it without working out on it. So i naturally asked them what did this stuff really do. Well that's when they gave me some and from there my life went down. I look at ghb as a roller coaster, and when you first take it thats when the ride starts. well after the first time i took it I fell in love with it. I became attached to ghb doing it whenever i had the time to, and at times i would do it right in front of my mother without her knowing. well to make a longer story short. well one day i brought ghb into school and there was three kids in my class who wanted it. i told no cause i didnt want anyone to get hooked cause i knew what i was doing was wrong but i couldn't break free of the ride. well they took ghb while i was away from my desk. well all four of us had to go to the hospital and the three kids placed the blame on me saying i put it in there drink and they said i didnt tell them what it was. I even showed them this webite but they still wanted it. after that thats when the ride reached its peak and was coming down. for the next week i was in every newspaper and in every new show. I to go to court for this and i face a little jail time, and keep in mind im only 16. all i can say is this [stuff] is no joke and if anyone knows anyone who is doing this GET THEM HELP BEFORE ITS TO LATE. ----------------------------------------------------------

Name: Anonymous
City, State: Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
Date: June 15, 2000
Comments:

Greetings:

As a serving Law Enforcement Officer that maintains status as a Drug Expert I would like to commend you for this site. I work currently as a Vice Officer out of the Sex Crimes Section. I have been providing Drug Awareness Education for almost 22 years now.

One of the most difficult parts of my job is combating misinformation supplied freely through web sites. Most GHB users under estimate the dangers involved with this drug and since it is so easy to make the supply is as close as a kitchen sink to individuals of all ages.

I lecture continually and will be happy to list your Web site as a Resource. Please keep up the good work. ----------------------------------------------------------

Name: Monica
Date: June 15, 2000
Comments:

I just wanted to thank the creators of this website for doing such a wonderful job on informing people about this terrible drug. I am only 11 and I have now heard my new true vocation--helping people learn about drugs and why you should not do them. I first came to this site because I was doing a report on this drug. I am sure I will get an "A" on my report because of the wonderful information on this site. THANK YOU!!!:>
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Name: Anonymous
State: LA
Date: June 15, 2000
Comments:

Last night, my best friend was drinking at a bar. He was perfectly fine and dancing around. All of a sudden, he passed out on my friend. We didn't know what to do. He was dead weight. It took 4 people to carry him out of the bar. We rushed him to a nearby hospital and just as my boyfriend was taking him out of the car, he passed out. He was unconscious and not breathing. My friends started to do compressions on him and mouth to mouth. They carried him up the emergency ramp and brought him into the hospital. He is doing fine now, but one question I ask is, "Do people get entertainment out of this?" This is sick and disgusting. This is very serious and no one should play around with this drug! ----------------------------------------------------------

Name: Anonymous
City, State: Long Island, NY
Date: June 13, 2000
Comments:

I want to thank you so very much for taking the time to inform me of your findings. I too was coaxed into believing the "GOOD" things and never heard any bad things. Until I took it upon myself to do the research. Wow. I am so glad I was one of the lucky ones to be smart and research this. I have a dear friend who wanted to try it so I said "suuurrree, why not" Well that friend passed out on me and got that twitchiness about him. I got scared and stripped him down and threw him into a cool shower. He immediately woke up thank god and I sat and kept him awake. Was a tough night but that crap was down the drain where it should all go. If I had lost my dear friend due to this, I honestly would have lost myself. (i am truly sorry for your loss as well) I bought this stuff off an internet web site! $65 for 48 ounces. Well that 65 that was wasted, i see as I wasted $65 to keep mine and my friends life. The web site I got this from is [I won't advertise it here] They claim to sell SOAP MAKING KITS! And they ship out of Canada. I'm sure there are MANY companies like this one…..

Well, Once again, THANK YOU SOOOOOOO VERY MUCH for your time and efforts on making the public aware. ----------------------------------------------------------

Name: Anonymous
City, State: FL
Date: June 11, 2000
Comments:

Hi, I would like to start out by saying that I am so sorry for everyone who has lost a loved one to this deadly drug. I am a college student in Florida. I am a peer educator at my school. We do seminars on drugs (GHB, marijuana, cocaine, etc) among many other health related issues. Just wanted you to know that there are many people out there who are trying to save lives by educating people. If we all work together we can make a difference. ----------------------------------------------------------

Name: Danny D.
City, State: Huntington WV
Date: June 08, 2000
Comments:

A bunch of my fraternity brothers Take "Blue Niny" as the call it. I won't try it b\c I know it is supposed to make you sleep and I am the kind of person that will fall into an extended coma from 2 shots of Nyquil. I asked my friend what it made him feel like and he said "it makes me wanna tackle caddilacs!" none of My friends have had any bad experiences with it......SO FAR. I am going to tell them about all this (even though it probably won't do any good) I did take Renutrient once. they were in pill form. It was right before I was going to sleep. My roommate always takes about 10-12 and drinks like 2 beers over a span of about 2-3 hours. So I figured I'd take about 5 and not drink any beer. I didn't really feel anything at all. But I woke up the next day and didn't feel the least bit tired. Actually pretty good. I don't think I will do any of that stuff anymore.......

Danny D.
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Name: Noree
City, State: Seattle, Washington
Date: June 07, 2000
Comments:

My fiancé and I were just in Las Vegas for Memorial Day Weekend. We were hanging out at the Hard Rock Hotel and what started out to be a great weekend in the sun, turned out to be the scariest weekend of our lives. Scott (my fiancé) was swimming around in the pool one minute, then not 10 minutes later, I was sitting in a beach chair with a friend and he started acting very strange--like he was just so wasted. It was like he couldn't keep his head up and his face went into the water--I ran into the water to find out what was wrong with him, he started laughing and saying "What?, What?" I thought he was just being a jerk so I made him get out of the water and sit on the beach chair with me for fear that he would drown because he couldn't keep his head up. Next thing I know he is completely non-responsive, at this point I know that there is something really wrong with him. We called for an ambulance even though people around us were telling me to leave him alone and that he would be alright. Thank God we called someone right away. I was told at the hospital that if I would have let him lay there, he most likey would have died. He started having a seizure and when the paramedics finally got him to the ER, he was in critical condition and in a coma. He stopped breathing and was put on life support and was in the beginning stages of kidney failure. I could not believe that this was happening. Our whole relationship has been a complete fairy tale and I kept thinking that "it can't end like this!!! I am suppose to marry this person in a couple of months and we are suppose to spend our lives together". This was especially scary because we were away from home and no one could help us. The doctors told me that if he had any family I needed to contact them because there was a very real chance that he would not make it. After over 7 hours in a coma, he suddenly woke up. I had never been so happy in my life. He could have very easily died, and I thank God every day for letting him live. This is not something that anyone should have to go through. Scott was only 31 and in perfect health. I have heard so many people call this drug safe. If it is safe, why are so many people dying from it? People need to get a clue. I almost lost a person that I love because of G and for what? People take it so that they can have a good time and avoid a hang-over the next day? That isn't worth losing your life. There are better and safer ways to have fun. Don't learn the lesson the hard way.
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Name: heather
State: GA Date:
June 03, 2000
Comments:

i got on the web specifically to look up info on GHB. i work in our region's biggest and best Emergency/Trauma Center and lately we've had an awful lot of young adults picked up by EMS (usually from local bars), barely breathing as a result of using GHB, often mixing it with alcohol. despite being barely out of my drug-experimenting years (i behave myself now), i had never heard of GHB and decided to find out all i could about it. i truly sympathize with you on the loss of your son--i wish you strength and healing. please keep up what you are doing. heather (georgia) ----------------------------------------------------------

Name: Karen D
City, State: Baltimore, Md
Date: June 02, 2000
Comments:

Well I've tried GHB and I wish the press would stop saying it's a tasteless drug. It has a taste it taste like pure salt or saltwater if your drink taste somewhat salty don't drink it, It will most likely have GHB in it.
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Name: Anonymous
City, State: Omaha, NE
Date: June 01, 2000
Comments:

I did G 1 time. I threw up and then i passes out on the hood of my friends car. I remember crying to one of my friends telling him I was going to die. Now that I really know I could have died. I'm kinda mad at the people who just sat there. When I did ecstasy I had a flashback from doing G and i threw up. the thought of it makes me sick to my stomach.
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May

(website was down partially during this month)

*** As Told By Matt Green Sent: May 07, 2000

I just wanted to say, that I was addicted to GHB (Blue Verve) for at least 6 months. It first started out as recreational use on the weekends, but then i was using it to sleep. I would have deep sleep sessions only lasting 3 to 4 hours. From there i went into taking 3 caps every four to five hours just to function. When I did stop cold turkey, it was hell. I had shakes, I couldn't think, i was freaked out. I went to the doctor after 5 days of insanity and No sleep. He was not to familiar with the drug. He thought the withdrawals i was having were from other drugs. I was placed on beta blockers to stop the racing thoughts going through my mind. I then experimented with over the counter sleeping pills combined with the beta blockers to sleep. Eventually i had to take volume, and xanxix, to sleep. I have been on paxil for the last 4 months, because after the GHB withdrawals, I went into a deep depression. It effected my whole life. I can give you a lot more information a much more detail if need be. I just wanted to share my story with you. Because when i was going through my private hell, I only wish others new what i was talking about. If you would like more info email me at oddcupal@bellsouth.net

Matt Green

*** As Told By Anonymous (as requested by the writer) Date: May 19 2000

Subject: GHB Death

On Sunday, May 7, 2000 my family returned home from a wonderful outing at the beach. It was a beautiful day, and my two little boys went swimming in our backyard pool while my husband and I continued to relax reading the newspaper outside. It was late afternoon, 4 p.m., a bit before dinner time but perfect time for a Corona (with lime, of course). Aah, life is good, we said.

The phone rang and I figured it was someone calling from the newspaper where my husband is the managing editor. Some kind of "breaking news" and "should we put it on the front page?"

Well, it was breaking news, but not from someone at the paper. It was my production manager: a lovely girl and hard worker, 26 years old who I'll call "Rose".

She had found her roommate dead 4 hours earlier. Understandably, she was hysterical.

My production manager Rose, who is also my friend, was in to "G" and other drugs as I found out in the days following her best friend's death. Saturday night they were partying and celebrating another one of their close friend's birthday. Rose and her roommate did "G" together, always together, because if you "G out", anyone around need to know what to do. Rose and her roommate made a promise not to G that night, because birthday gal didn't do it, and didn't know they did.

Rose's roommate stayed at a friend's house that night and partied some more. Rose was to pick her up around noon to go to the beach. When she got there, her roommate was "still sleeping". And she was indeed... eternal sleep.

Rose found her roommate face down on the bed. She had fouled herself and the smell was incredible. She found her 10 minutes to noon. She was as cold as ice and her body was completely stiff.

Of course, she tried to wake her up. But she knew. Of course, Rose knew. Her best friend and roommate was dead.

Although they "always G'ed together", that didn't happen that night. Her roommate did some G, and took just a little too much. And from what I understand, it just takes a little to be too much.

This freaked me out to the point of doing research on this thing and subscribing to this list.

According to Rose, GHB is available everywhere in this town and probably yours.. You want it --- you get it.

Rose is done with her GHB days. Rose is done with her "designer" drug days. She received one hell of a wakeup call as she was even more in to it than her roommate.

Kat Waters wrote a really awesome story on GHB, which I received through this newsgroup. Hopefully, y'all have read it. And she's right on: If you're gonna do it, make SURE someone knows. You need to checked on if you do "G Out". And these stupid, incredible web sites and G products that advise "Not to get medical attention" is INSANE.

I'm now watching my friend go through hell. It was only 2 weeks ago. But she is making me proud--she's strong and now a big time advocate of the danger of GHB. She wants to speak at high schools, and my husband (remember, the newspaper guy?) intends to do a story. This death of a beautiful, young 25 year old girl MUST save others. That is why I am writing.

Each family is a circle of love and strength. With every birth and every union the circle grows. Every joy shared adds more love. Every crisis faced together makes the circle stronger. http://www.cfimages.com


April Comments

Name:
Date: April 13, 2000
Comments:

My whole community was once addicted, yes addicted to "G". I couldn't believe it. But finally I gave in and tried it. Passing out at anytime and waking up not knowing how you got there for two weeks straight isn't away of life. So many people I am close to have almost died. But it seems nobody learns. I guess its hard to admit your wrong. A CARING FRIEND


Name: Jessica
City, State: Fargo, North Dakota
Date: April 12, 2000
Comments:

To family and friends:

I'm sorry about the tragedy of your family and friend. I read everything and it brought tears to my eyes. I am truly sorry. I'm sure he is in heaven watching down over all of you to make sure that the same mistake isn't made again.

I don't know much about this drug, but I read some of the Viewer Comments. It touched my heart to see so many people's lives taken by such a tragedy. I am only 14, but I hope that because of this web site kids all around the world will realize that there is help, and they need it. I hope that they will reach out for anyone that will listen to them and save themselves.
**Keep It Real**


Name: Tabatha
City, State: Austin TX
Comments:

I had never heard of this drug till today. I have sent this website to everyone I know. Thank you so much for having this website. I don't think that I know anyone who has used this drug but trust me I will inform as many people as I can about this bad bad drug !!!


Name: Anonymous
City, State: Ft Walton Beach, FL
Comments:

I work in ICU and have seen three cases of GHB overdose. The first was a mother and daughter who bought it at a health food store and tried it while driving. They were brought to the hospital in critical condition. The daughter had to be intubated. The second was more recent, Spring Break 2000. A 21yr old visiting from GA was rushed to the ER from a nightclub with cardiac arrest. It appeared that he had suffered a major heart attack, but was later found that he had ingested GHB in the form of a sports drink. He didn't know the effects. He was in the unit unresponsive on a ventilator for a few weeks before being sent back to GA. I hope awareness of this drug spreads quickly before more people are harmed. It's not a pretty sight when they end up in the unit.


Name: Anonymous
City, State: Miami, Florida
Date: April 10, 2000
Comments:

No one ever expects to receive that dreadful phone call "Your brother's been in an accident, he's in the emergency room, he's overdosed on GHB." I gathered enough courage to call the hospital & broke down crying, unable to speak as I asked what had happened and then the news.... He's in stable condition. He was given a second chance, lucky him, lucky us. I had heard of GHB before and I knew what it did to you. To hear of all the deaths caused by this drug, I realize that my family is very lucky. See, my brother had seizures and ultimately stopped breathing. His friends called the paramedics and he wasn't too far from the hospital. All these factors helped save his life. Even after recovering from this episode, he could have had permanent brain damage, or damage to his nervous system. He's healthy and recovering from the whole ordeal. I, on the other hand, will take longer to recover from the sight of my brother, pale & swollen, with tubes up his nose and all kinds of i.v's and monitors hooked up to him. And the realization that he came so close to death.
We need to educate more young people and advise them of the dangers of GHB. More & more young people are abusing of this drug, and dying from this drug.


Name: Devon
Date: April 10, 2000
Comments:

I was researching on the web for my chemistry project, which is on GHB, and I found this page and I spent the rest of the day on here reading about the drug. I never knew just how bad it was until I found myself crying and realizing that my friends were doing this drug and practically killing themselves. This page has helped me a lot and I am looking forward to presenting this project to my class I hope it moves them as much as it did me because they have a lot to learn. Don't we all.


Name: Cindy
City, State: Chattanooga, Tennessee
Date: April 10, 2000
Comments:

I am glad someone has a website about this terrible drug. I had never heard of GHB until last weekend when my friend's 22-year-old son was taken to the hospital after going to a party with his "friends". They were drinking and someone brought "blue nitro" to the party and he drank 2 capfuls of it. His friends thought he was asleep because he was snoring. The next day when they checked on him, he still lay there on the floor. He never woke up. The doctors said there was nothing they could do. Josh was only 22 years old and with so much life yet to live. He had a wife and a 9-month-old son.

It is up to everyone whose lives have been touched by this horrible drug to warn these young people about the dangers. I will continue to pray for Josh's family and for all the other families whose lives have been shattered by this drug.


Name: Anonymous
City, State: Birmingham, Alabama
Date: April 09, 2000
Comments:

Hi I just finished writing a paper on G. I have friends who have taken it before and I have even tried it a couple of times. It was fun at the time but the risks are just too high. I was out with a friend one night and she took some G from some guy we both knew there. About an hour later when I was ready to go I couldn't find her. It turns out this guy had other plans in mind for my friend. I found them in his car and he was about to take her to his house. She was completely passed out and had no idea what was going on. If I had not gotten there on time, I don't know what would have happened to her. I just wanted to tell people that life is too short to take a risk like drinking G. Please be careful!!!!!! Don't throw your life away for so little.


Name: anonymous
City, State: Portland, OR
Date: April 07, 2000
Comments:

I haven't tried GHB, but I have used ecstasy quite a few times. I love to party and go to raves. I haven't used X in 2 months and I'm trying to stay clean from it. I've heard about GHB but I've never seen it around here. I'm really glad I found this site because there is a lot of confusion about ghb for my friends and I. I really hope they find a way to lower the use of all party drugs. I thought it was fun and harmless until I read up on all of it tonight. I didn't realize how bad all of this was; it's not worth permanent damage or even death.


Name: M.A. Wojciehowski
City, State: Orlando, Fl
Date: April 07, 2000
Comments:

I have a good friend and co-worker who almost died 2 weeks ago because of a combination of "GHB and ecstasy" that was put into her drink by people at a party that she attended. The party was at a private residence not a "rave." No one is safe! What can we do??


Name: Undisclosed
City, State: Georgia
Date: April 07, 2000
Comments:

I am writing this with a just received copy of my brother's autopsy report. I always had a gut instinct that his death was from something other than just dying in his sleep. I knew one of his friends consumed GHB on regular basis and this guy was with him the night/morning it happened. You see, me and my family were in the dark on everything that took place on that awful night. I was states away and my parents just a few miles. My brother with people that were thought to be his best friends took GHB from a friend to supposedly just to "go to sleep". I really don't know anything much further because everyone that was with him has lied to shelter themselves and as of today, we finally have confirmation that there is so much more that happened that night than anyone is telling. Why? I don't know. It is sickening. I guess my message aside from GHB being completely horrendous and fatal is that if you know of someone using the drug, tell someone. If you see someone who you think might be messed up on the drug, help them. If you know of someone using the drug, tell them they are stupid and just how fatal and how many lives it affects aside from their own. If you ever feel uncomfortable or start feeling strange either because you knowingly took GHB or think someone drugged you, immediately let it be known. I know these things are easier said than done, but really it is time to stop being so blinded by this drug. Awareness is the key and knowing what to do about it is what is going to stop taking the lives of our loved ones. And for God's Sake never, ever leave anyone alone that you know or suspect has used this substance. I believe that is what happened to my brother and from reading about other situations, it is what happened others. Don't let this happen to you, your family or loved ones. Believe me, it is real and it is here and it is dangerous.


Name: Anonymous
Date: April 06, 2000
Comments:

I have colitis and have been taking liquid supplements because it hurts a lot to eat. I switched supplements last week. I bought a bottle from a friend who had ordered a case of Revitalize Plus off of the internet. I took a capful a day for three days. The fourth day, I didn't measure it, I just poured some into a bottle of juice and went to work. I told my boss I was on medication and I was feeling strange, never for one minute thinking it might be the supplement I was drinking with my juice. About an hour and a half later I passed out and hit my head. I woke up, thinking I was fine but the other employees saw I was starting to act pretty strange and completely out of control. My boss called 911 and an ambulance and fire trucks and cops showed up. They thought I was taking street drugs. The cop ordered me into the ambulance even though I absolutely did not want to go, I was sure I was fine and I felt humiliated. I got into the ambulance and lost consciousness. On the way to the hospital I stopped breathing and my blood pressure dropped to 70/24. I woke up later, completely paralyzed (they had given me a paralytic drug) with tubes into my lungs and my stomach. I thought I was dying. It was absolutely terrifying. I spent 2 days in Intensive Care.

Revitalize Plus does not say anything on the label about GHB. They call it GABA. AND IT KILLS. I'm lucky to be writing this to you, now.


Name: Shawn Davis
City, State: Jacksonville, Fl
Comments:

I was an avid GHB user, and the first time I went into a "G-HOLE" it scared me so bad I wont ever do it again. If you are using please use it in moderation, When something sends you to the emergency room and you think you are going to die...........I'll stop there and let you finish the sentence. Its not a game..It's your LIFE!! You decide, I almost died because of stupidity...Don't be next


Name: Anonymous
City, State: G'ville, SC
Date: April 06, 2000
Comments:

I am absolutely amazed by the stories and accounts on this web site. I had no idea that this stuff was powerful enough to kill you. About 2 weeks ago, my boyfriend brought home some Blue Nitro he bought from a kid @ work, and he had already tried it. He's done just about every drug out there, so I figured it was safe and he wouldn't let me do anything to endanger myself. I took 3 cap fulls and started feeling the dizzying effects almost immediately. He offered me a 3rd, and I accepted. Soon after the room started spinning wildly, and I ran to the bathroom to throw up. I woke up with him standing over me, and I was lying in the floor. I could not make my legs move, so he picked me up and took me to the bedroom. I began shaking and crying, and I couldn't even open my eyes- they were so heavy. I heard him calling my name, and it was like I was in a black space and his voice seemed to be fading away. I don't know how long I was out, but I woke up to find him sitting on top of me crying and shaking me, screaming my name. He kept saying, "please wake up- you're scaring me" I managed to roll over and pass out. I woke up 4 hours later and he had been sitting there watching me the entire time, scared to death. This is the closest I've come to understanding what a coma must feel like.

The following night he left for work and took 3 capfuls of the [stuff] without letting me know. I went by his work when I got off, and it was obvious that he was messed up. I begged him to ride home with me, but instead he refused and ended up getting into an accident. A police man brought him home, b/c he was too "drunk" to walk. A normally passive, sweet man, he yelled at me, cussed at me, and smashed a 5 foot mirror into a million pieces with his fist. I saw that this stuff could instantly change a loving person into a madman.

We have made a pact with each other never to touch this stuff again, and after reading all of these horror stories, I am so glad we did. Thank you for all of the information I've received from this web-site. I plan on telling all of my raver friends about how very serious and deadly this stuff really is.


Name: Anonymous
Date: April 05, 2000
Comments:

I went to this club this weekend and afterwards went to an after party. This guy was giving out G and he sounded like he knew a lot about it and what he was doing. He said it would enhance our rolls...none of us had been drinking anything all night of anything. I had 2 capfuls and in like half an hour I couldn't walk or anything. I had no coordination whatsoever. I passed out for an hour or so pretty much after that. I felt a little sick but didn't puke or anything. I am so thankful nothing else happened and I am NEVER doing that again. I am sticking with E or alcohol from now on I know they are bad too but at least I won't OD on it


Name: 18 year old female college student
City, State: Spartanburg, SC
Date: April 05, 2000
Comments:

I went to Spring Break in Florida with my friend, her boyfriend, and his cousin whom I was seeing at the time. We didn't feel like drinking one night, so "Bill" got some stuff out of the refrigerator in his uncle's house where we were staying. We were all watching a movie and I asked what he took. He told me some drug that you have to order over the Internet. I took the drug thinking it would be all right since his uncle was a respected doctor and he had it in the house. I am not a big drug user or drinker. I have only used one drug before, weed, and can probably count on my hands how many times I've used it. I liked how the drunk made me feel. I only took about two capfuls mixed with mountain dew and maybe drank a little more of my friends drink. I wanted to drink more but they wouldn't let me. I thought it was so cool. Then as we were going to bed I could barely walk up the stairs. I've never even been that drunk before to where this happens. Now that I think about it there is no telling what happened to me after I passed out. The guy I was with "Will" could have done anything and I wouldn't have known. Once I woke up I found "Will' on top of me and awake doing some stuff, but nothing really serious. I never thought of anything of it until now. I'm only 18 and a virgin, so I would not have known. Luckily I was on the rag so hopefully nothing happened. But, I guess I'll never know. It's really scary to find out that this is what I did. Like I said I'm only 18. I come from a very good family and go to a Christian college in the south where I play soccer and have a good life ahead of me with that and school. I try to be a good kid and always do what is right. Two of the people I was with have done some harder drugs and knew what was going on, I was totally oblivious. I'm writing this because I just found out the consequences of it. I was watching TV one day and heard it on the news. I couldn't not believe that I had done that before. That is when I decided to look it up. I'm very glad that I have found this site. I'm very lucky that nothing serious had happened to me. True, I did get a good nights sleep, but was it really worth it. I don't think so. I don't know if I'll never do it again, but I know that I will be much more careful and only do it around people I know. Not that that always matters. I think I was really lucky and I hope I never get slipped anything in my drink, because I am way to much of a trusting person. I've always led a very sheltered life and being away at college I've had to realize you can't trust everyone. Unfortunately, I've learned this the hard way. I especially hope that young girls will read my comments and listen. You are always a target. I'm begging you PLEASE BE CAREFUL!!

March Comments

Name: Sis
City, State: Miami, Fl
Date: 21 Mar 2000
Comments:

I extend my condolences to all those who suffered losses of family & friends to GHB. My brother is 19 years old and overdosed on GHB last week. It was the scariest thing my family & I have ever been through. We are 3 sisters & he is our only brother. I simply can't imagine what our lives would of been like without him with us! God has truly blessed my brother & us as well, with this 2nd chance! A 2nd chance, that unfortunately not everyone gets. SO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT LITTLE BROTHER!

In the past, he has tried this drug (GHB) several times, but this time things turned out differently... he almost died. He was out with friends & the diluted GHB was on the table right next to the concentrated liquid GHB. Mistakenly, he consumed the concentrated liquid, swallowed a bit, and then immediately spit the rest out. He fell to the floor & experienced a seizure. Luckily the other with him called the paramedics. When they arrived they intubated him, in order to help him breath.

"He was extremely lucky", is what all the doctors say & I know it my heart this is all but too true! It was the most terrible thing I have ever experienced, to see him tied to that hospital bed & see his body & reaction to the drug (coma-state then shaking, confusion -- he could hear us & yet he thought he was dead at this time).

My brother has already been released from the hospital. Currently, he is a rehab program in a excellent hospital. His parents, sisters, cousin, aunts, my fiancé & I (oldest sister)-- we are supporting him, as he gets through this difficult time in his life (as well as in our lives)! I pray to God everyday, every chance I get, that he forgets that dark world of GHB & other substances he would used, and finds the light within himself... peace.... happiness... love!!!
Everyone that makes the choice to consume, sell, or even drop this into someone's drink... think... feel... know... you are not only hurting yourself, you are hurting others... people that love you (family & friends)... people that shouldn't & don't deserve to die!
Thank you for this very informative site!


Name: Jennifer
City, State: Pensacola, FL
Date: 21 Mar 2000
Comments:

This drug to me is very scary! I didn't really understand the causes and the effects of this drug until today when my teacher explained it to the class. Also there is a high school nearby to where I live that three boys put a teacher in the hospital. This is a very serious drug and should be taken very seriously! So just watch you drink and take it with you everywhere you go. thanks :)


Name: Anonymous
City, State: Louisiana
Date: 21 Mar 2000
Comments:

I have used GHB once before. I was at a rave and on 3 tabs of XTC and had been told by friends that GHB would really "make my roll on XTC more intense!" So I finally decided to try it. Me and a friend on XTC that had never tried GHB either were going to split one capful for $5. When the dealer found out we had never tried it, he insisted on giving us each a cap for the same price we were originally going to buy for $5. His treat.

When we went to his truck to get it, a guy was passed out cold in the passenger seat. He laughed and told us that this was his buddy, and he had drank too much G--2 caps. We should have known not to take any then, but we were so gone from the XTC...
About 20 minutes after taking the nasty solution, I could barely walk. I made my way through crowds like a bumper car or a pinball, bouncing off of everyone in my path. I would get hot, drink a bottle of water, then vomit it up uncontrollably. I did this all night after drinking the GHB. Never again will I consume this nasty drug. I know too many people who have died or come close to dying for a cheap high.


Name: Cheryl Brennan
City, State: Shamrock, Texas
Date: 20 Mar 2000
Comments:

I lost my 46-year-old brother June 1999. He died in a head on collision with a loaded cattle truck. He had just been to a COMPANY party where several present had been taking Renewtrient. I have no proof that what happened to my brother was because of the drug - but I believe it was. His body was burned too badly and - of course all who were involved denied even taking the drug that night.

My beloved brother, David Dunn, was turned on to this drug by his boss. David came to my house telling me he had found a miracle cure for everything that had ever ailed us. I believed him. Together we got on the Internet and ordered a whole case of the stuff from a place in Florida. We both took it for about three months. I was not taking as much as my brother and I will not lie - I liked it. My brother was taking two capfuls about every two hours. He was about 6'3" - a big man.

I heard a news story on my radio one day about a man falling over dead from the stuff and that they were taking it off the market. I poured all I had left down the sink and called David to tell him we had to get rid of all of the stuff NOW. Bless his heart, he could only tell me how angry he was that I destroyed mine. He said he would have bought it off me if I had only given him the chance.

A month or two later I realized he was addicted and there was nothing I could do to help him - I never realized it would take his life. My hope was that he would run out and that would be that.

He told me one day that he didn't have any more and could not find a way to buy any but his boss (money being no object) had found another supplier and they had plenty so when he wanted some he could get it from him.

He left his home one night to attend a company meeting 30 miles away in the next town. At the meeting they had alcohol, Renewtrient, and very little food. On his way home that night he had a head on collision with a loaded cattle truck.

He left behind three daughters. Two of them (twins) were 16 years old and two grandsons, his mother, father and two sisters. He was my only brother. I loved him and I miss him more and more every day.


Name: Anonymous
City, State: Thunder Bay, ONTARIO
Date: 20 Mar 2000
Comments:

On Friday night my friends and I decided to try the drug GHB. We didn't know what it was they told us it would make us happy. Everyone was going along with it because they thought it would be funny to see how we would react to the drug. Unfortunately, in the end it wasn't a joke. My best friend lay unconscious until 911 was called. They picked up and had to pump the acid from her stomach. The next night my friend demanded that she did it again. She didn't learn her lesson and I don't know if she ever will. I feel terrible and there's nothing I can do. I cant tell her parents cause they no longer live her. I hope you learn a lesson from this lesson. GHB sucks man, and besides the fact that this happened the taste is beyond me. You will never ever taste something worse. I gag thinking about it,
thanks a lot


Name: Kathy Roberts
Email: robertskv@aol.com 
City, State: Virginia
Date: 18 Mar 2000
Comments:

I would like to say congratulations to all of you who realized that drugs are a waste of your health, your time, and your money. It is a shame that is takes a tragedy to make people wake up, but some times that's just what it takes.

I commend all of you for sharing your experiences. I think the whole world should read about this. There are too many people who are deeply involved in drug and alcohol abuse and can't seem to find a way out. They always make lots of excuses about why it's okay. In all reality, it is not.

Kathy Roberts
Lifetime Drugfree World Champion Powerlifter/Motivational Speaker 
www.GIFTOFSTRENGTH.com

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Name: Anonymous
City, State: Saskatoon Sask. Canada
Date: 16 Mar 2000
Comments:

I was at a party and they where passing out this weird liquid, but I didn't take any. Then I saw the 20/20 show and realized what they where passing around, I cant believe I was so close to death.
I read some of the stories on this site and can guarantee u and all of your readers I will never try the drug its not worth the chance.

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Name: Anonymous
City, State: Largo, GA
Date: 16 Mar 2000
Comments:

I am 27 years old and I am STILL being amazed at what my generation is experiencing with. The things I have read tonight have made me cry. I sit here at my PC with tears in my eyes, especially for the parents who have lost their children due to this horrible drug that became so main stream so many places. I myself have tried GHB, but I had GOOD friends who knew how much my little frame could handle. I trusted my friends and they never did me wrong. THANK YOU FRIENDS, but to hear about friends just allowing their friends to "sleep it off"? Who needs enemies with friends like that?

What made me open my eyes on how bad GHB was…? We were out on the beach one-day at a popular outside tiki bar when my sister's ex boyfriend approached me. He asked me if I had any friends that could get him some GHB? I pointed him in the right direction but not before warning him of the side effects. He wanted to "party" so he shrugged off my comments and headed towards the "party". About 10 minutes later he walked up to me and I could instantly tell something was wrong. I asked him if he was OK? I received no response. He just stood there. He was looking at me but right through me at the same time. Right about that time his knees buckled and he went down and he went down HARD. We called this "floundering". You know, like a fish out of water. Instantly everyone who knew what he was on and/or who was on it themselves ran everyone, but me and one of my really good friends. We never left his side. He couldn't control himself and urinated all over and in front to the entire tiki bar. The tiki bar was so popular that there were people there from his work and church and by the way, his dad is a minister. The bar called 911 and he was taken away on a stretcher, right there on the beach. We sat in the ER for hours before I finally walked right through the doors into the emergency room. I was kicked out several times before his nurse allowed me back. When I turned and saw him lying there with all the tubes and needles in him all I could do was cry. At the same time I saw him, he saw me. He started crying too. He had no idea what had happened to him or how he ended up at the hospital. He couldn’t remember a thing. I tell him that might be the best thing. He is fine. He learned a lesson the hard way.

ANYONE doing it or thinking about doing it, please consider this... What if you’re around a bunch of people, you fall out and no one comes to your rescue, are you ready to give it all up? Think about it.
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Name: Allison
Email: allisondisco@hotmail.com 
City, State: Atlanta, GA
Date: 15 Mar 2000
Comments:

Wake up people! This is not a joke! GHB is tearing us apart. It has become such a staple at all the circuit parties, all the clubs, and raves. It seems like the normal thing to do. But is it really? You and the crowd that you hang with, set the "norm" and it becomes "normal." It is such a new drug and everyone who uses it ends up using it irresponsibly. My theory is, there is no responsible way to use this deadly drug. One bad batch of "G" and you are down for the count. My experience is this: I have used GHB in conjunction with ecstasy on numerous occasions and was always wondering what the hype was from the media and the government. Nothing had ever happened to me until this past Sunday, anyway. I guess I was found on the dance floor unconscious and not breathing on Sunday morning. I was carried out of the club on a stretcher and taken to a nearby hospital. All I remember is dancing and then waking up on my back. I thought I was still on the dance floor. There were people surrounding me only I couldn't speak or move. I was paralyzed and unconscious. Scared to death about what was happening to me, my life repeatedly flashed through my head. I was going to die! I couldn't breathe, yet I was unconscious and knew this. I could still hear the music going in my head and the disco lights flashing in my eyes. I couldn't breathe and I was stunned. People were saying, breathe, Julie, breathe...Only that wasn't my name. Who were they talking to? Turns out, they were talking to me. I didn't have an ID on me and the paramedics thought my name was Julie. Pretty scary. I thought I had swirled out on the dance floor and was still at the club not able to breathe. I thought I was going to die right there. In actuality of my delusion, I was in the hospital. That disco music was the frantic noise of the ER and the bleeping of the heart monitor. Those disco lights were actually surgical lights being shined in my face. I don't even remember the paramedics taking me out of there or even the ride to the hospital. I was not responding to pain and they had to restart my heart by exerting an extreme amount of physical force to my sternum. When I finally regained consciousness, I was told that My heart rate had gotten down to 40 (normal is around 80). I stopped breathing and was brought back to life by my saving grace. A wonderful trauma team! They also told me that if the paramedics had arrived 10 minutes later, I would've died. Amazing. I cannot begin to tell you the trauma that I woke up to. One minute enjoying the energy of this fabulous drug and the next minute being taken down by it. Waking up with a catheter in its place, IV's all over the place, tubes down my throat, surgical tape all over my body, buck naked under a thin sheet in the trauma unit where it was 50 degrees. I was freezing and shaking all over. Sobbing and puking all over the floor when I finally realized my misery and where I was and why I was there. Ashamed at what my mom would think and feeling such an immense guilt for her in thinking of what I could've put her and all of my family and friends through. All for what? A stupid night spent doing something we've ALL been warned about over and over and over?? My friends tell me that I should just be happy to be alive and I am - Don't get me wrong. I am extremely depressed from this incident and do not know how I am going to cope with this fear. I do know that my partying days are over and I hope I can get through the mental trauma. I hope that maybe my story can help save one of you out there that is thinking about doing "G." It is not worth it one bit. If there is anyone out there that would like to email me I would love to hear your thoughts on this matter. I wonder if there is some kind of support group out there for survivors of this? If not, there needs to be one.

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Name: Door Girl
City, State: Auburn, AL
Date: 13 Mar 2000
Comments:

I work at a club in a college town in Alabama and I have seen the works of GHB. Just last weekend a 22 year old scooped out in the club and fell down three stairs onto the dance floor. Blood was everywhere. He busted his chin open and broke a few bones. Although he didn't die, GHB isn't something to play with. The guy said he purchased three caps at $5 a piece. He could of died from $15 worth of this drug. So, be careful.

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Name: anonymous
Date: 11 Mar 2000
Comments:

On March 9th and 10th, Ann Currie from the Today Show, hosted a special two-part segment on date rape featured on the Later Today Show. The March 9th show specifically discussed GHB, warning signals, and symptoms.

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Name: Anonymous
City, State: 
Date: 11 Mar 2000
Comments:

A few days ago...Mardi Gras actually, I wanted to get messed up...realllly messed up. I didn't want to be able to walk straight, wanted to just forget everything...have a good time. There was a fair in town and I decided to ask a friend of mine for something...I didn't care what, just something. Her friend was like a [darn] pharmacy. She handed me three sleeping pills, two uppers (hyper pills), and they kept talking about this GHB junk. They seemed pretty out of it, so I was like...why not? I think I took about a half of a capful...about five minutes later, I couldn't walk straight. that's what I wanted, wasn't it? but then it was 8 o'clock...and I started passing out on my boyfriend...in and out of consciousness. I thought it was the sleepers.... passed in and out all night. I would wake up, start yelling at a friend of mine 'cause he was making too much noise and I was so exhausted...so lost. I go to school two days later, and start asking friends...'what the hell is that stuff I took?' and their reactions shocked me. "You did what?! That stuff is worse than coke!!" I'm not a big druggie...at least, I don't think I am. I've done weed, but so have many of my friends...doesn't make them bad people. But I never did acid, or meth, or heroine, or even speed...none of that stuff. But then I go to school to find out that I did something so lethal? And then I go look it up on the net to find out that it's floor stripper??? I don't think I will ever take drugs that I've never heard of again. I just don't understand how I could've just taken it and not known...I figured it was something weak, something I'd never heard of, I had been warned about all the bad stuff, right? Nope. Found out I was dead wrong.... At least I'm still here. But it doesn't end there...I was still messed up the next day. I know I have really low tolerance, but I was still feeling great two days later. It really worries me, because this stuff might have had Very Permanent Side Effects. I really don't know what's going to happen, I'm just never taking that stuff again....

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Name: Anonymous
City, State: Houston
Date: 09 Mar 2000
Comments:

My girlfriend died 2/29/00 from a mix of alcohol and GHB. She may have also been raped by two men during this time. These were people she knew and trusted. [Names withheld] - you know what you did to her. And now everyone else must know also.

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Name: Anonymous
City, State: Louisiana
Date: 09 Mar 2000
Comments:

I just had to live with a case story of the drug Verve from one of our daughter's friends! she drank this stuff called Verve at a party. Her friend had to drive her home, she couldn't walk! on the way home she passes out! The girl had to carry her in the house her friends then got her mom to come see about her! she was unconscious on he floor! they called her dad. He rushed over they called 911/EMS to come get her! EMS stuck oxygen and 3 ammonia tabs on her nose to no avail! She was brought to the hospital and stayed in ER for hours! Luckily the girl survived! the ER MD said if she would have drank a capful more she probably would not have made it! I am very thankful because this could have been my daughter she was at this party too, but she claims she only tasted the stuff! they need to take this stuff off the market ! These kids today DO NOT know what they are doing! we are just thankful this a success story and not a tragedy!

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Name: Anonymous
City, State: Thunder Bay
Date: 08 Mar 2000
Comments:

I just wanted to let you in on my experience with GHB. I went to a "rave" recently and I always loved going to them because you meet so many people and you have such a great time. Well the last rave I went to is the time I tried "G". I had fun I am not denying that. But when I awoke 2 mornings later, my body felt as if it needed more to continue. I still feel as if I need it for my body to work. I am sooo depressed and I just want to go get high but I am stopping myself because I know its stupid. PLEASE DONT DO G. I hate what I am going thru right now and if I could turn back time I would! Its not worth it. The next day that I had done it a guy that I was partying with the night before had to go to the Emergency due to a G overdose. He lost control of what he was doing. And was actually drinking the "g" itself. KEEP AWAY!!!

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Name: Anonymous
City, State: Provo, Utah
Date: 07 Mar 2000
Comments:

For about six months I have been using a product called Genex (a GHB substitute) that I get at my gym. The trainer told me to take 1/2 cap (about 1/2 oz.) two nights on and one night off. I take it at about 12 midnight, right before bed and I am wide awake at about 5:45 am and feeling totally energized and my body feels really lean, and I go straight to the gym and run a few miles and the lift for an hour. So in this aspect I think it is a good thing since I hated even getting up by 8 am before using this drug. But -- I also can see how there is a great danger with this drug and similar products. I have on occasion taken more than my trainer told me to and I can tell you, it messes you up. Sometimes I feel good the whole time and nothing happens; other times I do really stupid things because I feel so good at the time I don't care and the next day I'm ashamed; other times I puke and I feel like crap the whole time and feel really dizzy like I'm going to pass out. Many of my friends are addicted to it and spending stupid amount of money just for a capful (like $20 bucks) and some of the girls I hang out with end up having sex with people they don't want to because, at the time, they didn't care or were passed out. So I quit taking it for recreational use and minimized my use of it for bodybuilding (two weeks ON/ one week OFF; during ON weeks I use it two nights ON / one OFF) and I am still seeing positive results. The bad thing is that there are too many factors to consider when taking this drug. Different products come in different sizes, and different concentrations of the active ingredient. So if you take a half oz. of one product you may only need to take 1/8 oz. of another to get the same effect. Also body weight is a factor - if a 220lb. body builder gives his 105lb. girlfriend the same amount he takes, that's too much for her. And also (speaking from my personal experience) it makes a difference if I take it on a full or empty stomach. Sometimes when I took a cap for recreational use after eating I could hardly feel the affects but if I took the same cap on a completely empty stomach it messed me up bad. Anyway -- be careful, it's dangerous.

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Name: Anonymous
City, State: 
Date: 07 Mar 2000
Comments:

First, would like to extend my greatest sympathy to those who have lost and loved one to this drug of the devil and those who are currently addicted....Help is around you.

I have had to involuntary experiences with this drug, GHB.. I work in a bar where everyone is a muscle head. I knew this stuff was around but didn't think it would come to me since I thought I knew everyone well. Well, I can drink and this night I only had a couple..i stopped drinking early...I woke up the next morning still in the bar and not remembering anything. To think I was knocked out for 8hrs
in a bar I work at with mostly guys just freaks me out. what happened to me? I'll never truly know.. they said they took care of me.. they were always there for me when I needed anything but just knowing I was unconscious for so long only makes me wonder. Like I said, I remember nothing.. so anything could have happened. Be careful and stay away from GHB

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Name: Anonymous
City, State: Atlanta, GA
Date: 06 Mar 2000
Comments:

I once had a beautiful dear friend. Thanks to GHB I no longer have my friend. She stopped breathing on her 31st birthday due to GHB. She had a body builder friend give her this drug. She had a similar episode to the night of her birthday and he did nothing. She still used the drug. She was not aware of what could happen to her. What can I do to help spread the word?

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Name: Anonymous
City, State: San Francisco, CA
Date: 06 Mar 2000
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I first came to San Francisco in 1980 as another Gay refugee from an intolerant America. By 1991 over 100 of my friends had died from AIDS. The following four years were spent traveling with my partner of 15 years, Rob. We always came back to San Francisco for visits home, because this was the place we had spent the best years of our lives together as a couple. In 1995 Rob died from AIDS.

In 1998, four years after Rob's death I met a man while living in Frankfurt. He was 25 years my junior and I dealt with parental, paternal instincts for the first time in my life. He brought me more joy and more love than I ever thought possible again after Rob's death, but in a different way. He was HIV negative and one of the best examples of the success of the tolerant compassionate European attitude toward Gay sexuality. I was proud of his responsible mature attitude toward safe sex. When he told me his dream was to come to visit San Francisco I thought it was a good opportunity to renew my love for this city. He planned to stay for three months. Like a good parent I warned him about the irresponsible behavior I had personally witnessed in many Gay men in San Francisco with regards to unsafe sex. He told me there was no drug in the world that could ever break down his resolve to always use a condom. Like most Europeans I had met, he was horrified that any Gay man would do otherwise. For several weeks I felt my German friend pulling away from me and getting more distant. He was losing sleep and going into a deep depression. Finally he broke down and told me the truth. He had been afraid and embarrassed and ashamed of what had happened to him. He had been given GHB and was penetrated by an HIV positive man, without a condom. This HIV positive man knew my friend was negative and my friend had told him he didn't want to have unprotected sex. This GHB "Date Rape" happened in a private home! My friend flew back to Frankfurt because he couldn't stay here another day after what had happened. For four months he was depressed and suicidal as he waited for his first HIV test. He has broken off all contact with me because I remind him too much of San Francisco. Before the rape he was told the big lie about GHB; that it is harmless, that it is a natural substance that the body produces on it's own. So there is more danger to GHB than passing out or dying form a combination of GHB and alcohol. It wrecks people's lives in many ways!

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Name: Anonymous
City, State: Blair, Oklahoma
Date: 06 Mar 2000
Comments:

To those of you who think "This will never happen to me" think again. GHB is dangerous. I had my first and hopefully my last experience with it last night. I'm from a small "Mayberry" kind of town and I never expected this. Some friends and I decided to go to a club out of town (another small town called Lawton Oklahoma) and meet some of our other friends there. The place was crowded and I kind of got lost from my friends. This man asked me to dance and we did.. He then bought me a drink claiming "Try it, you'll like it" so I sat talking with him for a few minutes, and by now I was on my third drink of the night. I had half of the last one down (the one he had bought) when another friend of mine found me and asked me to dance. About twenty minutes later I started feeling dizzy, so I went into the bathroom. By the time I got into the bathroom I was feeling sick so I figured I'd sit down and maybe that would help.. but then my head just dropped and I leaned over and just knew I was gonna pass out so I got up and stumbled my way out the bathroom door where a friend of mine was waiting for me, and low and behold, the man who bought my drink was standing there too.. I told my friend I didn't feel so good, and no sooner did I say it, I collapsed. I only remember bits and pieces of the rest of the night. My friends carried me to my car where I was asked numerous questions by them like "Do you know your name?" Do you know my name?" Do you know where you're at?" I was barely responsive. I couldn't move, I had trouble breathing, the world was spinning, I couldn't talk, and then I started to vomit and couldn't stop. They finally put me in the back of the car where I passed out. They drove me home (to my friends house, we live an hour away from Lawton) The scary thing about this is, aside from the very few memories of the night that I DO have, anything could have happened to me. Had my friends not been there, I'm almost certain that it would. When we got to the house (Which I don't remember AT ALL, this is all what I've been told) My friend and his girlfriend got me out of the backseat, carried me into the house, put my hair up in a pony tail, took off my jacket, shoes, socks and belt and rolled me over on my side. I didn't wake up or move for any of this. ANYTHING could have happened to me and I NEVER WOULD HAVE KNOWN THE DIFFERENCE!!!!!! This is all a happening of GHB. I am not a drug user by any means, and I never plan to be. It's been about 16 hours since this happened and I still feel horrible. How dare people do this to the unexpecting? I have a life to live and enjoy and it COULD have been taken away because someone evidently had a plan. I have a plan too, and that's just not part of it.

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Name: Anonymous
City, State: Dunedid, FLA
Date: 03 Mar 2000
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My husband started using GHB about a year ago, then dropped down to something "so-called" safer, just different name and now takes Renewtrient "for the muscle". I have witnessed him overdose about four times (throwing up and moaning and groaning), so that scared my really badly that I was totally against this. He's always told me how safe it is. HE buys it from a health-food store to justify his use. It is ruining our marriage because he is the most tender, sweet, lovable, although shy, man when he leaves the house in the morning, and the next time I see him, he is irritable, cocky, says and does things he normally wouldn't do. I confront him every time because I know when he's taken it, and he totally denies it to no end, which is making me crazy because I know he's lying to me. I can never prove it, unless I go digging in his car for evidence, which is a daily routine of mine now, and then I have my evidence and he gets so defensive then and sort of mean, which he has never ever been. I don't know how to deal with this because after reading everything on this site, I think he's doing it all day long even at school. Please give me guidance. I don't want to lose him to this drug. I love him, not renewtrient.

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Name: Sarah
City, State: Texas
Date: 03 Mar 2000
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Until about two weeks ago I had no idea what "G" was. I was at my ex-boyfriends house and him and some of his friends were sitting around drinking Mountain Dew. I thought this was strange because he doesn't drink carbonated sodas. I asked for a sip because I was thirsty and he said "Only drink a sip, and if you like it.. get your own" Then he told me it had "G" in it. He told me "It's what bodybuilders use" and "it makes you feel drunk with out having to drink a lot of alcohol" I thought it sounded kinda cool. Until we went inside to go mix some more for me. We went to go get his vials of it from his room and saw that it had eaten THROUGH the thick plastic vials. WHY would you want to put something in your body that EATS through plastic? Imagine what that does to your STOMACH! I said I didn't want to take it. They went and bought some more from this guy who sells it. Later that night my ex took about 2 capfuls and was passed out drooling all over himself and had even peed in his pants. He doesn't remember that at all. One of his friends wanted to see if he was awake and so he punched him right in his face.. he didn't even budge. I was scared that if I would have taken it that I would have been passed out and raped. "G" is really scary because different people react differently to it. Some of his friends didn't even feel the effects. It is SO unpredictable!! Don't poison your body with this JUNK! If you are considering trying "G" I am not gonna tell you not to.. do what you want to do.. But only if you are ready to die. You COULD.


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Name: Anonymous
City, State: 
Date: 29 Feb 2000
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I was offered the drug a couple of weeks ago and had never heard of it till then. I had taken a hit of X and later in the night took about 4 caps of G. I felt good but later in the night I started to feel weird. My whole body was tingly and I kept having to sit down and get up again. My friend I was with luckily was watching me. He kept me awake the whole time and all I can think now is that I am very lucky. I didn't have the terrible experiences the others had. And just reading their experiences is enough for me to say that I will never do it again.

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Name: Dylan Thomas
Email: noghb@hotmail.com
City, State: Santa Clara, CA
Date: 29 Feb 2000
Comments:

Anyone who thinks that GHB is harmless is only kidding themselves. Two years ago I became interested in GHB for its noted ability to stimulate muscle growth. Before I knew it, I was full addicted and consuming it at least 3 times a day to stay in the clouds. This lasted for 6 months. Within this time I went to the hospital once and was arrested another time for being passed out in my car. Both times they thought I was on PCP or Heroin because I was so incoherent. I passed out numerous other times in clubs, bars, and parties. Luckily the people I was with knew what I was on and took care of me. I introduced GHB to some of my friends and they experience similar results.

Another scary feature was the poisoning that went on. The day after a heavy dose I would feel like I drank a bottle of Drano… a hangover times 10. Heavy bouts of depression occurred and the only thing that would keep me sane is another dose. The stimulation of growth hormone caused many changes in my body. My joints ached, my facial features became stronger (enlargement of nose cartilage, ears, jaw line), and the fat on my face diminished which revealed a cadaverous, older looking person. Major nerve damage occurred to the point that I lost feeling in my face and extremities. My face sagged and wrinkled so bad that people started calling me Droopy (after the cartoon dog). I had the face of a 90-year-old.

Now that I have been clean my body is going back to normal but I will be scarred for life from the experience.

Comments to noghb@hotmail.com

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Name: Paula Post
City, State: Jacksonville, FLA
Date: 25 Feb 2000
Comments:

My name is Paula, I did not know Kyle, but wanted to thank you for setting up this web page. I was drugged with GHB and raped on December 18th, ironically, 2 months before the new bill was signed by the president. Everyone needs to be informed of the serious effects of this drug. I must say that I did know about it, I had friends who had used it recreationally, and I know that there was no way I could have prevented this from happening. I was with guys I knew, people I worked with and trusted. They were bartenders, they wouldn't put anything into my drink. That is what I thought, and now I have about 6 hours of my life missing. I don't know exactly what happened, but I do know that I am lucky and happy to be alive today.
Sincerely
Paula P.

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Name: T. Russell
City, State: New York
Date: 24 Feb 2000
Comments:

I started taking GHB in the August of 1999, and I was immediately hooked. I felt great on it, increased energy, all the good stuff that they say. As time went on, I started mixing with other drugs, and mixing with alcohol. Sadly I went to the hospital twice but still believed that GHB was not the cause, but that it was because I took too much. GHB is the most addictive drug that I have ever seen because you can take it all day, everyday. But as time went on, I noticed certain things like my sex drive wasn't there, my motivation wasn't there, I felt tired and fatigued no matter how long I slept, I couldn't build up my muscles, and all I thought about was taking another dose that hardly even would do anything. GHB is literally garbage. If one stops to really think about what the hell they are putting into their bodies, I would rather put any other drug into me than this. GHB is more addictive than any other drug as well. Did you ever stop to think that the reason you can't feel any bad side effects is because GHB is an anesthetic, and even if you were doing damage, you wouldn't feel it but you just want to take that dose, every few hours, thinking oh this stuff is even safer than water. But as more and more time goes on, and with the help of god you are still alive, you take a small dose to bed, wake up three hours later, and you have [peeed] all over yourself and don't know why, nor where the smell came from. But you persist, GHB is a growth hormone releaser, so it has to be good for me, never realizing how much you are f***** with your heart each time you consume more sodium, lowering your potassium levels, and god knows what the precursors screw around with. Drinking the precursors is like drinking a straight chemical. Why not just drink alcohol, you'll feel the same way.

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Name: Anonymous
City, State: Ft. Lauderdale, FL
Date: 22 Feb 2000
Comments:

My boyfriend is a GHB user - I don't know how to help, I have tried everything, and I can't put up with his behavior anymore. We used to live together, and his GHB use got us kicked out of our apartment. He would Use G in public - and wind up arrested or in the hospital. I would be asleep in our apartment, and would hear him down the street yelling and clapping his hands. The neighbors did not appreciate this. Everyone talks about how G can kill you by taking too much and overdosing - but how about if you are walking down the street on g and get hit by a car because you don't know what you are doing. How about if you are smoking a cigarette, and drop it when you pass out? There are so many bad things that can happen when you loose control over your body.

My boyfriend once took G at a party and overdosed, it was dark outside and his friends set him down in a pile of fire ants unknowingly. Since he was so messed up, he wound up getting bit 100 or so times before he rolled himself away from the ants. he had a reaction and almost died. This incident was the 3rd time that he had to be hospitalized from G overdose - and he still does it. Obviously, it must be highly addictive. He has lost all of his friends because of the way he acts, nobody can have a good time with him when they go out because of his tendency to overdose, and now he has lost me as well. He is down to one friend who is also a "g" head. he refuses to go to rehab, and to his credit, he has stopped taking the drug all the time, he has even gone months without it. However, he always " slips" and goes back to it. I can't deal.

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Name: Anonymous
City, State: Tampa Bay, Florida
Date: 22 Feb 2000
Comments:

I never thought of myself as a major "drug user". Maybe very occasionally I would do Ecstasy. I don't smoke pot and drinking is rather nasty in my book. But someone who'd taken GHB before told me it was great and safe as long as you don't drink. That sounded easy, because I rarely drink at all. So one night we all go to a party, and I don't remember how much I took, but I did get sick, and I passed out for hours. I don't know if I can even call it that, because people watching me said my eyes were open and I was thumping my head repetitively against furniture. I guess that would be blacked out. or something else. I never want to touch it again myself. It may be OK for some, but for me it could've been my last time to try anything ever again. Count me-- Miss No G.

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Name: TIM JENNINGS
Email: MED29EMT@AOL.COM
City, State: INDIANAPOLIS, IN
Date: 20 Feb 2000
Comments:

I AM TIRED OF WORKING ON KIDS TRYING GHB FOR FUN. I WORK ON AN AMBULANCE AND HAVE HAD TO PICK UP TOO MANY KIDS AT PARTIES AND "RAVE" PARTIES THAT HAVE TAKEN THIS STUFF. NEXT THING YOU KNOW THEY ARE UNCONSCIOUS AND NOT BREATHING. THEY ACT LIKE STUPID SEIZING ADDICTS WHEN THEY ARE ON THIS STUFF. THEY PUKE ALL OVER THEM SELVES, TUBES SHOVED ALL OVER THEIR BODIES AND ALL AVAILABLE ORIFICES INCLUDING THEIR GENITALS. I HAVE SEEN PEOPLE SPRUNG OUT ON COKE, CRACK, LSD, PCP THAT DON'T ACT THIS STUPID. I AM NOT SUGGESTING THAT ANYBODY USE CRACK, BUT THEY SHOULDN'T USE GHB EITHER. THE "HIGH" YOU GET IS NOT WORTH LOOKING LIKE A FOOL WITH PUKE ON THEM AND TUBES COMING OUT OF THEM BECAUSE THEY CANT BREATH ON THEIR OWN. GHB IS NOT SAFE AND TOO MANY KIDS ARE DYING FOR A 10 MINUTE HIGH. IM TIRED OF TELLING KIDS PARENTS THAT THEIR KID MIGHT DIE BECAUSE OF THIS. IS THIS SOMETHING THAT SOUNDS LIKE FUN? I DON'T THINK SO. I DON'T WANT TO PICK UP ANY MORE KIDS IN COMAS FROM USING THIS STUFF!

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Username: Lisa
City, State: Arroyo Grande, CA
Date: 20 Feb 2000

Comments:

Last night my only brother, my mom and dad's only son, my kids only uncle died.
He was drinking some blue stuff they ordered on the internet. I'm learning by reading this web page that it is ghb. Only by God's grace, he came back to us. His heart stopped beating and the breath stopped coming. Thank God, his girlfriend was there to do CPR on him until the ambulance got there. When he got to the ER, he was totally nonresponsive, not breathing on his own. The doctors had never heard of this blue drink and they didn't seem to have much hope. He did start breathing on his own and eventually around 5:30 this morning he came to. Thank you God for giving my brother a second chance. From reading these stories, we were one of the lucky families. I truly feel blessed.

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Name: Kim
City, State: Swansea
Date: 16 Feb 2000
Comments:

First I'd like to send my prayers out to all that have lost a love one or have experienced bad encounters with GHB. I have recently been going to After-hours parties in my town for about three months now and I've never used GHB but I have heard of it in the past. No one has ever told me any really bad effects until I went to a after-party and watched people G-out on GHB and I had no idea what was happening to those people so I asked a friend what was going on and they said "he just drank to much G leave him alone" I could not just leave this person alone He is someone's son, brother,grand-son. I began trying to wake him up thinking I could snap him out of it but It didn't work he just stayed in coma for about 4 hours in the same spot. I stayed with him all night watching him and I thinking about what would have happen if I wasn't there to watch him or if he started vomiting or worse stopped breathing. Then another girl was falling all over the place passing out getting up dancing and falling again. I started to talk to her trying to keep her awake, I followed her around trying to find her friends and when I did I told them to watch her she was doing good they said " it's not my fault she took to much G " They left her there falling all over the place and didn't care. I helped her as much as I could but I'm new at all this.

This is just a little thought I think people should realize that your friends don't care if you G-out. They just want you to leave them alone and let them "roll". Please, if you know anyone who is using or is thinking about it encourage them not to. It's a 50-50 chance they'll awake. Thank you to everyone who has shared their stories and God Bless You

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Name:
City, State: Woodbury heights, NJ
Date: 16 Feb 2000
Comments:

Please update more often! my name is Debra I live in NJ. somehow a woman named Trinka contacted me at my work...I work in one of the biggest detoxification/rehabilitation centers in N.Philadelphia. initially I assumed she was making a referral for methadone maintenance, which I specialize in. unbeknownst to me she had a guy named James from NJ who was in NEED of detox from this gamma hydroxybutyrate-GHB. I had only HEARD of this- seen it on DATELINE as "the date rape drug". had no idea the effects, no idea of the addiction properties, no idea the amount of people this SOLVENT has destroyed. as you can read for yourself, this solvent is NOT for HUMAN CONSUMPTION, it is a solvent, to clean, strip floor wax, to develop film. some quack decided it would be COOL to market it. okay-so you may loose a little weight, that's because you're so psychotic that you can't eat- plus some people just throw it up, therefore you loose weight-DUH. yes it probably is a pretty neat high, no hangovers- but it's only for a little bit, we do not know the AFTER effects, like... who knew that smoking crack was going to produce crack addicted babies-who now are in constant need of therapeutic attention-and that's if they get that. most are abandoned to foster care. no one knows what this G is going to do to our unborn, unthought of offspring. it has taken 9 days of medical detox, and James is STILL hallucinating...cool huh? ask jimmy if he likes it. he states it HURTS physically worse that heroin withdrawal- he did heroin w/d without medical attention. he could not do it. he said to me upon his admission into detox, "deb, I thought I'd be drinking this VERVE for the rest of my life. I'd rather do 2 bundles of dope (24 bags)and kill myself than to continue this, I'll do anything to get off this [stuff]--I beg of you out there, stop!
don't even start- don't even get curious. a 24 year old girl died last week, she and her brother were curious- she's dead-he feels responsible. please get help- get off this stuff-

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Name: worried
Email: tevisbound@aol.com
City, State: NC
Date: 15 Feb 2000
Comments:

My daughter was admitted to a psychiatric hospital this past Sunday...She had work at a gym for several years and was a bodybuilder, trained every day. She has always been a highly motivated person. About 8 months ago, she told me about this GHB. I even tried it with her and could not believe how strong it was. I then started noticing how confused she was getting, not keeping her appointments, having temper outbursts that were not like her, etc. The first time we really knew she had a problem was when she was 2 hours late for her OWN birthday party. She came in saying "I've been lost all day" and really WAS lost. She was taking this drug several times a day and it was a very strong batch. On Christmas eve, she went off the deep end ~ we tried to get her to get help, but she would not go so we had her picked up and taken to the hospital; they let her go....They would not keep her.

Last weekend I got a phone call from a sheriff's dept over 100 miles away - They had found her way out in the country at some unknown person's residence going through their jeep. She really thought that she was in another state and was at her father's house and he had given her this jeep. They took her to the hospital. She swears up and down she is not doing this drug any more. Ever since this has happened she has been disoriented and she has not slept since last Thursday. If you saw her now, you would think she was looney tunes...If you knew her before this happened, she would have been the last person you would have thought this would happen to. This is a VERY, VERY dangerous mind altering drug. At this point, we don't know if she will EVER be the same again. None of the hospitals she went to had ever heard of GHB. Ms. Porrata was kind enough to get in touch w/the psychiatric hospital where she is and inform them of this drug. If anyone has had a similar experience or has any advice, please write me. My prayers go out to all of you who are dealing with this problem and have lost loved ones....

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Name: Anonymous
City, State: HAUPAUGE NEW YORK
Date: 15 Feb 2000
Comments:

GHB IS A WAIST OF TIME. I SPENT 10 DAYS IN THE HOSPITAL. 1.5 OF THOSE DAYS IN A COMA, 3 IN A HOSPITAL BED AND 5.5 DAYS IN THE PSYCH CENTER AND MY LIFE IS STILL [expletive]. JUST FOR A GOOD, CHEAP HIGH O.D.

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Name: Kathleen Wellman
Email: MommyKitKat@AOL.com
City, State: Las Vegas,NV
Date: 15 Feb 2000
Comments:

My boyfriend/best friend seems to be addicted. He is having a hard time admitting to it. But, his recent actions have told me otherwise. When he's sober he talks like he knows that he has a problem and does NOT want to be addicted to anything, but when he isn't around me he goes back to G or something like it that he claims to be getting from GNC, "verve" I've never heard of it. I don't know how to help him. Can I????

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Name: Anonymous
City, State: Iberville Parish, Louisiana
Date: 15 Feb 2000
Comments:

This drug is a total Nightmare...and I do believe many young people, even teens, are being controlled with it also.

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Name: Unknown
City, State: CA
Date: 08 Feb 2000
Comments:

One night a friend of mine was DJing a house party. He had been drinking a couple of beers and got thirsty, so he picked up a water bottle that was sitting next to him and took a few gulps of 'water'. Well, he could tell right away that something was wrong with it because he said it tasted funny. About 10-15 minutes later he had passed out, so some people carried him into the bathroom where he started to have convulsions. They called the paramedics and he was taken to the ER where he woke up strapped down to a bed with tubes stuck in him. When he woke up the doctor told him that he was one of the lucky ones that actually survived. The hospital has been getting a lot of people who are ODing on the drug GHB. That is some scary stuff.

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Name: anon
City, State: Los Angeles
Date: 08 Feb 2000
Comments:

I would like to express heartfelt understanding to all who have lost people through this drug & to everyone who has 'experienced' the worst of it, & those who have unwittingly been drugged/poisoned/OD'd, it is hard to comprehend the reasoning why people do this to others.

Last month I went up to Sunset (like Kimberley from the Dec 99 message?) to check out a band, little did I know that I would be found unconscious, slumped over a table in a different venue. I was with friends & the last thing I remember was being at the gig. Before going out we had a couple drinks but nothing else, during the gig I ordered a vodka & cranberry juice. I was watching the band play & then the rest of the evening has been told to me. I DON"T REMEMBER ANYTHING ELSE!!

I was found face down, unconscious over a table. A guy was sitting there & apparently looked as if business was usual. When my friends tried to move me, I started vomiting & blood was coming out of my nose. I was extremely pliable, a deadweight & totally relaxed. My eyes were rolling.

The guy at the table said "Call an ambulance", the owner came out & said "Call an ambulance, get her out of here." I was held by my stomach as my face & feet were touching the floor, I carried on vomiting while a friend got his vehicle. I was carried to the truck by 3 guys & kept slipping through their fingers due to complete muscle relaxation & then put inside & carried on puking during the ride, & at home in the bathroom where apparently there was a weird smell, like Drain-o or some other cleaner! I woke up the next day, as I looked in the bathroom mirror I noticed specks of dried blood on my face, it was also on my pillow, jacket, clothes, sheet. I then found out what had happened. I was so freaked out, disorientated, & I felt very alone and angry.

I was very glad to find this site, it helped me put my ordeal into perspective & I realized I wasn't the only person affected. I remember this drug from years ago & never wanted to touch it, I can't believe it was put into my drink & that I didn't notice. I can't turn the clock back but I hope people STAY AWAY from this horrible drug. I have been warning all my friends & wanted to keep you all updated cause this is still going on....the world is still full of creeps & we (especially women) should be continually vigilant. Take Care!!
*By the way, I don't know if this has happened to anyone else but my sense of smell has been altered (maybe due to chemical burn from puking through the nose??) I had no medical treatment. There must be more awareness about this. People should know which kind of venues are attracting these creeps.

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Name: Megan
City, State: USA
Date: 07 Feb 2000
Comments:

Recently, my friend and I went to a dance club out of town. We ran into these two guys (Dan and Chris). Dan was very attracted to my friend. They invited us over to Dan's house to "hang out" - for some reason, we agreed.

When we got there, Dan brought out a plastic jug filled with what I assumed to be water. There was a reservoir in it and he squeezed the bottom of the bottle to bring some of the liquid up into the reservoir. He then drank it. "What is that?" I asked him. "It's called GHB. It's kind of like Ecstasy. Want to try?" My friend and I refused. He offered it to Chris, who took a big swig of it. After that, Dan and my friend went off in another room to talk. Dan left me on the couch with Chris, telling me to "watch him".

So I did. Chris was sighing as if he was having problems getting air, and leaned his head back to rest. In a few minutes, his head began bobbing forward and his arms were jerking involuntarily. I pushed him back against the couch and told him to lay still. He was still breathing heavily. Soon he stopped responding to me shaking him, calling his name, even slapping his face. He was barely breathing and his heart rate was very low.

I went back to the room where Dan and my friend were talking, and said, "Chris isn't responding to anything. Is there anything wrong with him?" He assured me that it was normal and that he would be "awake" in 5 or 10 minutes.

So I went back to the living room. Chris was slumped over on the couch. I sat there and tried everything I could to wake him up, but he didn't do anything. By then, my friend was back in the room with me, and she leaned over him and yelled in his face, slapping it with her hands. He finally woke up. I helped him to his feet and he fell against me. He mumbled something and fell down, crawling towards the bathroom. I looked at Dan. "Is he going to be okay?"

"Yeah, this is his first time doing it. He'll be fine once he throws up."

I haven't seen either one of those guys since that night, and I wish I would have gone with my gut instinct and called 911. I know Chris is still alive, but maybe calling the paramedics would have made him think twice about doing it again.

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Name: Jackie Mueller
Email: jmueller@means.net
City, State: Lonsdale, MN
Date: 07 Feb 2000
Comments:

I found this very helpful , interesting and now scared! This past month I recently just found that my husband has been taking GHB. More and more I snoop and investigate he has been putting it in my drinks more than once! I'm one that does not take drugs only prescribed! I just went through a tragic Friday evening after coming home from groceries with my 15 month old daughter and my 3 yr. son was home with my husband, obviously took something! With in the 10 minutes I was home he was talking about Thanksgiving dinner and etc. He basically was flipping out and had know idea who was talking to and where he was! I called 911 - they took him in. But as still noticed he is still taking it and he thinks it is nothing to worry about. What do I do? I just wish my husband would understand that I care but he is blaming everything on me! I'm not perfect but GHB is not helping our marriage. I feel scared leaving him alone with our babies, and I'm expecting another baby soon.

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Name: Christine
City, State: Morrisville
Date: 07 Feb 2000
Comments:

Thank you for this web site. My friend Jimmy was taking GHB as a dietary supplement. He is a recovering alcoholic and has been sober for 6 years now. A couple of weeks ago he tried to stop taking GHB and became violently ill and was hallucinating (visual & auditory). He got on line and found your web page, which put him in touch with Kim Blank and Trinka. He is now in detox at St. Joseph's Hospital in Philadelphia. The doctors are "shooting" him with Phenobarbital once an hour to help him get through the withdraw and hallucinations. He didn't know he was addicted until he tried to stop. I'm thankful that your web page was there to put him in touch with people who found a way to help him. He's like my brother and we (my family and I) are not ready to lose him. We watched him work so hard to recover from alcohol, we don't want to see him lose to a drug like this. Thank You, Thank You, Thank You. Please pray for him....He is only in day two of his detox. He has 12 more to go.

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Name: Debra George
Email: m.reddig@worldnet.att.net
City, State: woodbury Hts, NJ (out of Philly)
Date: 06 Feb 2000
Comments:

I received a phone call Friday 2/4/2000 from a woman looking for detox for a young man addicted to GHB, I had only heard stories. today we finally admitted him to medical detox- god only knows what can happen. I am horrified at the stories these young people have of their ordeal with this SOLVENT-NOT MEANT FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION, is what I read on the bottle of VERVE. James is 26,with gorgeous eyes that ripped my heart out as he headed out of my office and into the elevator towards sjh dtx, he was frightened and made it clear to me that he wanted off "this stuff" today 2/5/00. he had been using it to loose weight,beef up and feel
good about himself. what he found was
two weeks into feeling good, he now felt like crap and no matter how hard he tried he could not stop NEEDING this blue liquid. despair is the last look I saw.
I don't even know him. I was contacted through where I work by a woman named Kim who is a liaison for Trinka. god how did I get involved? now I sit here and wonder if out hospital can care for him successfully. we have NEVER dealt with this substance of abuse. heroin? crack? wet? yes, constantly. I am so sick just imagining the horror that kid has to go through all for the sake of esteem. to look gook is to feel good? I'm certain that he's not feeling too good right now.

Trinka, Kim, and Christine are to thank if he makes it through this, I hope to god our hospital can help him. this is scary stuff-
Debbie Philly

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Name: College
City, State: MINN
Date: 02 Feb 2000
Comments:

Hey All! I'll be the first one to admit.. I've done my share of experimenting with different types of substances. Nothing, Absolutely nothing can make you feel as [cruddy] as this stuff. If I would have known some of the stories, (and cases) that I saw on this site tonight there is NO WAY I would have ever touched this stuff. I'm telling you everything you read here is TRUE! While reading story after story I was just amazed at the similarities I've seen (and felt) from one experience.

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Name: Alicia
City, State: Salt Lake City, Utah
Date: 01 Feb 2000
Comments:

My friend and I where given GHB in a drink and we were set up to be raped but we went to get some air and lost the those who drugged us. We didn't call the police, we just went home to sleep. I was hyper and then had seizures, she passed out and became unarousable. She felt better the next day whereas I was sick. We both feel weird long term effects that we can't medically tie to the GHB but they are things that didn't start to effect us until just after. (head pain, dizzy spells, breathing problems)
If we had not left we would have a different story to tell. The police couldn't/didn't really do anything. I feel victimized by the club, the police, the drug users who advocate GHB's use and by the law for allowing this to get as far as it has. and I will fight to see this kind of thing stopped.

Alicia Salt Lake City Utah

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Name: Anonymous
City, State: New Richmond
Date: 01 Feb 2000
Comments:

I was out at a party and a friend of a friend came up to me and asked me if I was on x (ecstasy) and I said yeah he said he had something that would help my high it was called liquid G. It was a clear liquid. I took two shots of this stuff and about twenty minutes later I started feeling light headed and started feeling very sleepy. I kept coming in and out, my guy friend asked me if I took that clear stuff they were doing in the corner and I told him yes, he then told me that it was a date rape drug. I struggled very hard to stay awake, my body was dropping to the floor, meanwhile the guy who gave me the stuff, was making out with me, and everyone was just in their own little world. Finally one of my guy friends came to my rescue. I really don't remember anything else, just feeling very tired and couldn't walk I didn't know where or what was going on. I feel very violated about the whole incident. I feel like it was all my fault. I am really concerned though about the side effects that this drug could have on me.

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Name: Kat
City, State: Allentown PA
Date: 01 Feb 2000
Comments:

*Names changed.

I personally have never done GHB. In fact, up until my first encounter with it, I'd never even heard of it. At my nineteenth birthday party last year, there were about 200 people (it was in Philadelphia and a somewhat club-like event). Of course, almost every drug under the sun was there. I personally did ecstasy and LSD.

Sometime during the night, I remember a young girl being carried upstairs, unconscious. I felt for her, but I was having a good time and I was also on E, and I figured she'd just had too much to drink - nothing uncommon at parties, nothing to be *too* concerned about, it seemed that the person carrying her had the situation under control.

Later, my boyfriend Alex and I heard snippets of conversations regarding a "designer drug called G", as they called it, that was going around the party. I thought absolutely nothing of it - I certainly wasn't interested in trying something new at a big party, especially with drugs already in my system. The one thought that did occur to me was about one of my close friends who came to the party. Jen was very impulsive and daring, and I knew that if someone offered her something, no matter how foreign it was, she would try it. I also had no idea what else she'd ingested that evening. But, I wasn't too concerned - as of yet, it didn't seem to be anything to worry about. Some people were even saying it was completely fake, and people were just trying to make money.

However, a while later, my boyfriend and my friend and I happened to end up in the same room (it was a big house and we didn't see each other much with all the people around). Suddenly, Jen passed out. I felt one of those nervous swirls go through me, knowing there was a chance she'd taken some G or something else, but I didn't get too upset - she got sick and passed out a lot, and was never harmed, and I was on E and unable to get very nervous. They took her upstairs, and at least for the moment, I forgot about the situation.

Some time later, I heard Jen SCREAMING upstairs, sort of moaning. (Now, remember this house was HUGE, filled with people with music blaring - she must have been LOUD.) Someone came up to me and said that they knew I was her friend and asked me to come upstairs and stay with her. So Alex, myself, and our friend Missy went upstairs. The room Jen was in had about six other people in it. Some were awake and obviously sick, some unconscious. Jen was unconscious and moaning in her sleep, and drooling. People were twitching. I immediately got very scared.

No one knew any details about G, so no one knew if people were going to die or what. Also, we weren't entirely sure just how much people had taken, or what they had mixed it with, etc. Missy was scared because she had taken some, too. (She ended up okay.)

Everyone was unconscious, vomiting, etc. until around ten am the next morning. I spent a long time with the first girl who'd been taken upstairs unconscious. See, the people selling it had explained NOTHING about it - like that it's dose sensitive, can't be mixed with alcohol, etc. The first girl taken upstairs weighed only 85 pounds and obviously, got sicker than everyone else.

Thankfully no one died that night, although I'm sure some of the people there did come close. Some people were totally fine, and enjoyed themselves (I'm sure this is due to body weight and not having anything else in their systems).

The point is this. I won't discredit people for using drugs recreationally, because I do, but they're ALL unsafe. GHB is even MORE unsafe, because unlike say acid or ecstasy, it is VERY VERY sensitive to dosing. Also unlikely ecstasy, it can be easily slipped to you when you don't know it. You have NO idea how pure or strong what you're taking is. I DO NOT ADVOCATE OR CONDONE GHB USE IN ANY WAY. I have seen a lot of things happen to people because of drugs, but BY FAR, this is the worst I've ever seen. It puts you in a positively disgusting, out of control state, and these people are [DARN] lucky they lived.

One example of why there is no "safe" method of using GHB is that a few months ago, three friends of mine took exactly the same amount. One got very ill, one got "messed up" and enjoyed himself, and one felt no effects whatsoever - three people of varied weights. There is just no means whatsoever of doing this drug safely. No drug is safe, but some are worse than others, and G is one of the worst.

This site is incredibly informative and touching - there is nothing like seeing real peoples' testimonials to inform and educate other people about a subject such as this one.

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January Comments

Name: Anonymous
City, State: Ypsilanti, MI
Date: 30 Jan 2000
Comments:

I was looking for information on GHB because of what a friend of mine went through at a nightclub in Pontiac, Michigan. It was her 27th birthday and we went to a nightclub. The first thing we did was buy some drinks. After that she said she was going to stay at the bar and talk to the bartender, so I left to dance with other friends. What happened after that is very confusing to all of us and she is still trying to piece together. What I remember is seeing her a maybe an hour later being carried out by bouncers. I had gone up to them to ask what had happened and they told me that they were kicking her out for sexual misconduct on the dance floor. At that point she was not with it, which we thought was alcohol poisoning. I then went to go get her coat so she wouldn't freeze in the 24 degree temperatures outside and when I got outside, not knowing I left by the wrong doors, I couldn't find her. I became very scared for her and mad at a nightclub for throwing a girl out alone in a bad city. When my friends and I went back inside it was closing time and we were given a hard time by the bouncers. We kept asking where they kicked her out and they would tell us that it was not there problem anymore and for us to get out. After awhile of this, one of our friends found her on the steps of one of the other entrances. When we got there she had a guy holding her arm talking to her and she was throwing up terribly. She also had a hard time opening up her eyes and walking. The guy friend that had found her and I then walk/ carried her to the Pontiac hospital only a block away. When we brought her in we heard a comment from one of the nurses that this was the fifth girl brought in that night from the nightclub we were at. Then all they did is "let her sober up", which never really happened before they told me to get my car and take her home. She was talking and throwing up, so I guess that was good enough for them. After that she spent an entire day on my couch and in my bathroom throwing up.

The next day when we talked, she was trying to piece together what happened. She remembers getting the first drinks and then the guy next to her asking where her friends had gone. She then turned around to look, turned back and remembered having to pull her drink back closer to her as if it were moved. After that she said she went to the techno room where there was a strobe light and that the light, after awhile, had started to "mess with her". After that she barely remembers anything. She was nauseous for three days after that and had no appetite to eat.

After reading some of these comments I realize that it most likely could have been the drug GHB. I wish that these nightclubs would pay more attention to what is going on in their establishments and in the future, not just kick out a girl, by herself, on the streets.

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Name: "Jerry Bear"
Email: jerrybear75@hotmail.com 
City, State: El Paso, Texas
Date: 30 Jan 2000
Comments, and an opinion on legislation/control:

Greetings!
I have a great deal of interest and knowledge in psychopharmacology, and have been aware of this substance for a long time. I have considered it alarmingly dangerous right from the very beginning, when it was fully legal and freely available. Substances with this sort of pharmacological profile are typically dangerously toxic and highly addictive with dire withdrawal effects. An older example is the smelly solvent, paraldehyde, used to treat DT's in alcoholics. Though very useful for this purpose, if used as a drug of abuse it causes severe addiction in only two weeks. They are basically all barbiturate/alcohol analogues in terms of their properties. I have avoided it at all costs. I have no interest whatsoever in typical "illegal" drugs, most are illegal with good reason, but I am very interested in natural remedies such as herbs, vitamins, various nutritional supplements and natural compounds, so I naturally investigated GHB. Years ago, I occasionally tried expressing my reservations in Internet discussions, but was basically ignored. I now see that my worst fears have been surpassed by the actual experiences with this compound. I thought this would come to pass when I suddenly noticed the widespread use of butyrolactone as a common, everyday solvent. As soon as I realized what it was, I knew that it could be easily converted to GHB by dissolving in an aqueous alkaline solution. I wondered how long it would take before it became a major source of the stuff. It turns out that butyrolactone is itself probably even more potent a drug than GHB.

Now comes the real problem. Something MUST be done to deal with this menace, and that something is NOT to put it in the corrupt, incompetent hands of the DEA. Current legislation putting GHB and all analogs, isomers, derivatives etc. in the same category as, say, heroin is an absolute disaster. Huge numbers of industrial products contain these analogs as well as virtually all foods. In effect, these laws simply criminalize the entire population and their enforcement would paralyze industry. But the current hysteria is threatening to do just that. The eventual and inevitable result is that the courts will simply have to throw out all laws attempting to control the situation and overturn most convictions related to this problem. Unreason does not lead to any effective solution to anything, it just makes things work.

Effective legislation must be specifically tailored to the peculiarities of the special situation involving this compound and kept independent of any other legislation. Also, it should be dealt with by parties as unconnected as possible by the vested interests in the so-called, "War on Drugs". If we allow the DEA and their local equivalents to "handle" the situation, even if the most glaring absurdities of current laws are corrected, we can be sure that GHB abuse will become a serious ongoing social problem with doubtless lots more of our minorities locked up in prisons under harsh sentences and the deaths will continue. The "Drug Warriors" have made it very clear by their corrupt, dishonorable and self-serving actions that they are not about to put themselves out of business by actually solving the problem. Would you like to have your house and property confiscated and be thrown in prison for decades because you have a forgotten bottle of "acetone-free" nail polish in your home? Under the current California law, the police could do just that! Obviously, it wouldn't be held up by the courts, but for that very reason, such a law is no solution to the problem. Effective legislation should carefully separate the end user from the profiteer. My feeling is that if you are caught under circumstances suggesting personal GHB use, you should face mandatory treatment and reeducation. Anyone addicted to this compound who comes forth voluntarily for treatment should be free from threat of legal persecution. At any rate, simple possession or use on a personal level should not be more than a misdemeanor.

The situation escalates dramatically if the drug is administered secretly or under misleading circumstances to another person, especially for "date rape". This should be punished as harshly as possible(including life without parole or death penalty if this results in the death of the victim). Likewise, trafficking in this product for profit should be dealt with as severely as peddling heroin or cocaine.

The law should also ignore non-drug use of related compounds. Mere possession of butyrolactone as an obvious solvent should not be regarded as a crime. It is when it is sold or modified for ingestion as a drug that it should be treated as a violation of law. Butyrolactone has such outstanding environmental safety features that it should not be discontinued simply because somebody might get high off of it. I believe though, that with a little experimentation, say a strategically placed methyl group or something, that an equally effective substitute could be found without the drug effects, and this could be gradually phased in. What is needed is a standard of reason, is the possession of butyrolactone or 1,4 butanediol such that it appears related to drug use, or does it appear to be related to normal industrial use? If the later, this must not be penalized or prohibited. Do you want to be arrested because you are wearing a polyester shirt whose fabric was made with butanediol? Under current legislation, you could be. This is madness, and the courts will most assuredly soon see it that way.

Although law enforcement can help curtail some of the worst excesses of commercial trafficking, what is really needed is a serious educational effort against this drug. All the solvents that glue-sniffers use are still perfectly legal for legitimate use, but relatively few people indulge because of the general awareness of the gross hazards (even worse than with GHB) and the very negative, low-class image of solvent abuse. Even the typical heroin junkie or skid-row alcoholic would be insulted at being called a "glue-sniffer". A similar image needs to be created for GHB. Finally, effective treatment must be made available (and highly publicized) for addicts to this compound and its analogs.

The withdrawal effects from this drug are at least as dire as those from full-fledged alcoholism (the famous DT's or Delirium Tremens) or barbiturates, and like them carry a high risk of death if done without adequate medical treatment. (As a standard of comparison, a severe alcoholic faces about a 30% risk of death from the DT's if he withdraws without treatment.) The resulting dramatic stories would make wonderful publicity; statements from authorities that "such-and-such is bad for you" carry little weight. Dramatic personal testimonials from those who have faced addiction or lost loved ones to this awful drug are much more convincing; they have the ring of real-life experience to them. I also think that the promoters of GHB should be denounced publicly and confronted directly by those who have been harmed by this stuff. It is easy to discount the words of some other academic expert but very hard to disregard the grief-stricken face of a mother who has lost her child to GHB or a man who ended up ruining his life and destroying his health from an addiction that he was led into by the false pronouncements of the promoters of this drug. I would like to see some of these "experts" tell THESE people just how wonderfully "harmless" and "wholesome" GHB really is! I hope the readers of this realize that it is up to the people to do something about this and not leave it up to the ineffectual and fumbling hands of the authorities. Find out all the information you can. Find others to talk about it to. When GHB hits your community, be ready to move the situation out into the media and get everybody thinking about it. With respect to this mysterious, weird, seductive, and all too often deadly substance, ignorance is NOT bliss and silence is NOT golden!

Yours Thoughtfully,

A Voice Crying For Reason In The Desert

JerryBear

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Name: Anonymous
City, State: Orlando, FL
Date: 29 Jan 2000
Comments:

Don't get me wrong, G is a drug with plenty of medical benefits [writer's opinion]. HOWEVER..it is not for us to take in order to party or to self medicate. It is a very complex and deceiving drug. I have been using G to party for about a year now. It has been a long scary road for me and my friends.(however we all still use it) Everyone of my friends in my crew have come close to death because of that drug. I guess if you take the drug, with the correct dosage, it is SUPPOSED to be okay..but the fact is we don't fully know what it actually does in the long run. The problem with the drug, when you use it to party, is that you WILL screw up the dosage at least once (probably more). The flip side to that, is that a screw up can cause death. Anyone who parties with it almost always drinks (not to mention other drugs), which when combined with g, as you all know, is horrible.

The past month I thought I finally figured it out! Never again would I overdose..until tonight. I drank A LITTLE and had ONE cap to many. I puked everywhere and almost passed out at a bar. Right now I am writing this at 5:00 am trying to let the [stuff] get out of my system before I sleep.

If you try to incorporate this drug into your social life without side effects (ex. passing out in a club) you probably will fail. I use G a lot.. and I still mess up here and there. It is sad to say, however I know people how are probably going to die from that drug. (god forbid)

Here is the deal, all drugs are very bad. Coke an take over your life. G is definitely to dangerous to be taking on a regular basis. X causes many problems. I now have a decent anxiety disorder, and went through some depression thanks to the wonderful drug X. Not to mention the problems I will have in the future, which many doctors think is a very big possibility. Many of the reasons I use g, is because of the severe panic attacks I get...which pretty much started after using x about every three weeks for about 7 months. (which is not that much compared to a lot of my fellow crackheads out there.)

Whatever... this is just my spin on it. Take it or leave it. I know I used to be a big G pusher, spouting off claims saying its " the best drug ever...no come down!!" Its far far from it. Don't get into it. You will most likely will mess up and it could cost you your life. Not to mention your car..(I wrecked mine while messed up on scope. pretty pathetic). ohh well it all in the past now. My prayers go out to all the parents and friends who lost people because of g.

Be careful with this drug, it can be harsh. Also be smart about other drugs to. They're all bad. They all de-value life, even though some, at the time, make you think better about your life.

enough from me.
-later

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Name: Anonymous
City, State: Ohio
Date: 26 Jan 2000
Comments:

Thank you for having such wonderful information on this page. last night one of my very best friends almost overdosed on GHB. I have never been so scared in my whole. I didn't know what GHB was and the effects that it could have on the body. Luckily we got her to the hospital in time and today she is still alive, possibly kicked out of college and definitely in trouble with her parents, but still alive. Thank you

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Name: D. Brisco
City, State: Corpus Christi ,TX
Date: 24 Jan 2000
Comments:

I used GHB with one of my friends in Houston when I lived there. We used to smoke weed every day all day.....we used to drink beer all the time too. One day this friend, Bob told me a little about GHB. His comments were just drink one beer, this capfull (of GHB) and well be TRASHED!! So I downed the nasty tasting capful of liquid and washed it down with a beer. After we rolled a joint and began to smoke it I became very, very slow. I tried to climb a tree in his front yard like we normally do while smoking a joint and instead of snapping up the thing like a squirrel, I couldn't hardly lift my arms. When I did get a hold of the tree I scratched my arms to death trying to climb it. Finally I gave up and we started to laugh. I will admit when the drug started to peak out I was scared of what would happen next. It was kind of like being really drunk, half tripping and very stupid. I was going to brew up my own batch and try to sell some...until I read your sight....no joke! There are several stories on here that changed my mind about the substance GHB. I too felt that at times I could pass out and smash my face somewhere but I didn't,....by the grace of a higher power. I will never take GHB or let my friends do it in front of me. There is too little known about the drug to just be taking it